Chapter 27 :: The Lightning-Struck Tower

Sep 13, 2005 00:28

Sorry about the timing. Too much on my plate at the moment. I completely forgot that I had a summary to do until I saw Chapter 26 on my f-list. So so sorry. *begs for forgiveness*Harry apparates himself and Dumbledore back to Hogsmeade after the adventure in the cave. Harry notices Dumbledore isn't feeling so hot, so he tells Dumbledore that they' ( Read more... )

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Re: oh, yay, exposition cadesama September 14 2005, 03:42:23 UTC
But do the abilities of Legilimency and Occlumency come hand in hand? I mean, we're given an indication that they do (every character who is able to cast one seems able to cast the other), but it doesn't add up that you would have to learn one to fully grasp the other. (I mean, Snape was only instructed to teach Harry Occlumency.)

Not idea, really, but Harry's lessons in Occlumency did result in one instance where he successfully read Snape's mind. So, learning one may not immediately lead to the other, but I think they are even more connected than one might expect simply because they are opposites.

but it's just sort of strange how godlike he is viewed within this world; if not a god, he almost seems to have a similar standing in the wizarding world as the Pope would have in Christendom.

I go back and forth as to how much of that role I think it's his role in the text, and how much is his role in their actual world. I mean, Dumbledore has been doubted and deposed in canon, but never by a substantive force, and never based on his actual flaws. He retains an unusual, and frankly unbelievable, influence on not only his followers, but the Wizarding World at large. But a lot of that seems merely because the plot demands he play the part of a god in the text, so that Harry can be guided by such a character.

It's possible that the orders were preset, like she knew what to do when the coin became hot because these orders had been given when she was first placed under Imperius. In this case, she would need to be under 24/7, in case she found the coin in one of her free-will moments and disposed of it.

Which begs the question of just how draining it is to cast Imperius. Perhaps that's why Draco seemed ill, not his guilt? I suppose it is nice to finally see a character who isn't immune to Imperius, after Barty Jr., Sr. , and Harry.

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Re: oh, yay, exposition pilly2009 September 14 2005, 13:19:17 UTC

I suppose it is nice to finally see a character who isn't immune to Imperius, after Barty Jr., Sr. , and Harry.

Were the two Bartys actually immune to the curse? I suppose Bary Jr. grew immune to it after fourteen years under the spell (which is an interesting property of the curse, actually), but I thought that Wormtail had accidentally slipped up when Barty Sr. managed to gain his free will back.

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Re: oh, yay, exposition cadesama September 14 2005, 15:58:38 UTC
Jr became immune, and I thought that Sr. did eventually as well. Hmm, lemme check. Looks like we're both right, "After a while he began to fight the Imperius Curse just as I had done ... But Wormtail neglected his duty ... My father escaped" (689US, paperback).

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