* Some are wondering about the nickname Cissa, because it’s often used in fanfic. I don’t know why, sisters give often themselves nicknames (like my Rantanplan, Gaga, Gawel, Nain de Jardin, for my sister) and Cissa is really more normal than Narc.
Also, Bella is less crazy than in OOTP, but like Sirius, she had time to pull herself together away of Azkaban. Ok, two weeks is short for this.
* We must be the first of our kind ever to set foot--"
Well, Bella, technically, Snape is the first to set foot here, or his mother, if it’s where he grew up.
* Cissy, you must not do this, you can't trust him--" "The Dark Lord trusts him, doesn't he?" "The Dark Lord is... I believe... mistaken,"
Fun how it’s exactly the kind of conversation the Order must have about Snape. In fact, before seeing it was Snape’s house, I thought “ha, it’s remind me someone.”
* How Narcissa know so well the way? I think she already comes there, but when? And why?
* a man with long black hair parted in curtains around a sallow face and black eyes
Where’s the greasy?
* "I am not your servant!" he squeaked, avoiding Snape's eye. "Really? I was under the impression that the Dark Lord placed you here to assist me."
Who want to bet that the stuff Wormtail doesn’t want Snape know is that Voldy placed him to spy Snape? And Snape knows it perfectly, without using Occlumency.
* He has lately taken to listening at doors, I don't know what he means by it...
Suuuuure!
* That I don't trust you, Snape, as you very well know!
Well, Bella and Sirius have something in common :).
* Fooled the Dark Lord, the greatest wizard, the most accomplished Legilimens the world has ever seen
I don’t my copy of OOTP, but didn’t he say that about DD too?
* playing Dumbledore's pet
After Lucius’ lapdog…
* …many of the Dark Lords old followers thought Potter might be a standard around which we could all rally once more. I was curious, I admit it,
Yes, of course, Snape wanted to give Harry the benefit of the doubt. Yep, I totally can see it. Not.
* I have done my utmost to have him thrown out of Hogwarts, where I believe he scarcely belongs,
And yet, when Umbridge was in power, he didn’t try.
* The duel with the Dark Lord last month shook him. He has since sustained a serious injury because his reactions are slower than they once were.
Again, I don’t have OOTP, but I don’t remember Voldy hitting DD. And the only serious injury he has is his black hand, which comes from the curse on the ring. And Snape know that. So…if I remember well, he’s lying.
* It is ... very secret
And yet, all the DEs at Hogwarts knew it was Draco’s job to kill DD.
* You are the Dark Lord's favourite, his most trusted advisor.
If it’s true, and that Snape was in love of Lily, it’s probably why Voldy didn’t want to kill her, he wanted to give her as a gift to Snape.
* Snape's expression was blank, unreadable.
His favourite face since GOF.
* His black eyes were fixed upon Narcissa's tear-filled blue ones
Legillimency?
* Snape's hand twitched within hers
I think it’s important.
* I don’t understand the point of this chapter. Or it’s to make us doubt during the book, convince us he’ll lying to the DEs and is really for the Order, to shock us with the end, or it’s to say, “hey, look, he was really evil since the beginning!”, but it’s too soon. I don’t understand. I admit, I’m a fan of the Double-triple-quadruple agent theories, so it could be me in denial.
yeah, full book spoilerscadesamaAugust 16 2005, 22:22:32 UTC
Who want to bet that the stuff Wormtail doesn’t want Snape know is that Voldy placed him to spy Snape? And Snape knows it perfectly, without using Occlumency.
Good catch. I think it's likely that Voldemort really doesn't trust Snape, and sent Wormtail to spy on his spy. Even though Wormtail's a turncoat, he's such a weasel that Voldemort knows he can trust him.
* I don’t understand the point of this chapter. Or it’s to make us doubt during the book, convince us he’ll lying to the DEs and is really for the Order, to shock us with the end, or it’s to say, “hey, look, he was really evil since the beginning!”, but it’s too soon. I don’t understand. I admit, I’m a fan of the Double-triple-quadruple agent theories, so it could be me in denial.
I think this chapter exists solely for the purpose of psyching us out. It does summarize the reasons why Snape has Voldemort's confidence, which actually minimizes the possibility of Snape being evil, imho. By delineating what his cover story is, we can easily trust what's going on with him. It's when the readerdoesn't know why a character is behaving oddly that you create suspicion. So, this chapter sets up tension for us, wondering what mess Snape has bluffed himself into. If it were meant to show Snape as a bad guy, then that would ruin the climax. Why have a twist ending, if you're going to give it away in the second chapter?
Re: yeah, full book spoilerscheeringcharmAugust 16 2005, 22:27:58 UTC
I think this chapter exists solely for the purpose of psyching us out. It does summarize the reasons why Snape has Voldemort's confidence, which actually minimizes the possibility of Snape being evil, imho.
Or, she could say at the end: "You were surprised that Snape was evil? I told you everything right in Chapter 2 of HBP."
I think this chapter proved to me that Snape was on the good side. My guess was that he is acting like a spy for the Dark side, while actually spying for the good side. He twists his words around for his fellow DEs to make him look like he was on their side all along, when really, he's been on the Order of the Phoenix, using their information to help Dumbledore. Not that I like Snape, particularly, either.
Also, Bella is less crazy than in OOTP, but like Sirius, she had time to pull herself together away of Azkaban. Ok, two weeks is short for this.
* We must be the first of our kind ever to set foot--"
Well, Bella, technically, Snape is the first to set foot here, or his mother, if it’s where he grew up.
* Cissy, you must not do this, you can't trust him--"
"The Dark Lord trusts him, doesn't he?"
"The Dark Lord is... I believe... mistaken,"
Fun how it’s exactly the kind of conversation the Order must have about Snape. In fact, before seeing it was Snape’s house, I thought “ha, it’s remind me someone.”
* How Narcissa know so well the way? I think she already comes there, but when? And why?
* a man with long black hair parted in curtains around a sallow face and black eyes
Where’s the greasy?
* "I am not your servant!" he squeaked, avoiding Snape's eye.
"Really? I was under the impression that the Dark Lord placed you here to assist me."
Who want to bet that the stuff Wormtail doesn’t want Snape know is that Voldy placed him to spy Snape?
And Snape knows it perfectly, without using Occlumency.
* He has lately taken to listening at doors, I don't know what he means by it...
Suuuuure!
* That I don't trust you, Snape, as you very well know!
Well, Bella and Sirius have something in common :).
* Fooled the Dark Lord, the greatest wizard, the most accomplished Legilimens the world has ever seen
I don’t my copy of OOTP, but didn’t he say that about DD too?
* playing Dumbledore's pet
After Lucius’ lapdog…
* …many of the Dark Lords old followers thought Potter might be a standard around which we could all rally once more. I was curious, I admit it,
Yes, of course, Snape wanted to give Harry the benefit of the doubt. Yep, I totally can see it. Not.
* I have done my utmost to have him thrown out of Hogwarts, where I believe he scarcely belongs,
And yet, when Umbridge was in power, he didn’t try.
* The duel with the Dark Lord last month shook him. He has since sustained a serious injury because his reactions are slower than they once were.
Again, I don’t have OOTP, but I don’t remember Voldy hitting DD. And the only serious injury he has is his black hand, which comes from the curse on the ring. And Snape know that. So…if I remember well, he’s lying.
* It is ... very secret
And yet, all the DEs at Hogwarts knew it was Draco’s job to kill DD.
* You are the Dark Lord's favourite, his most trusted advisor.
If it’s true, and that Snape was in love of Lily, it’s probably why Voldy didn’t want to kill her, he wanted to give her as a gift to Snape.
* Snape's expression was blank, unreadable.
His favourite face since GOF.
* His black eyes were fixed upon Narcissa's tear-filled blue ones
Legillimency?
* Snape's hand twitched within hers
I think it’s important.
* I don’t understand the point of this chapter. Or it’s to make us doubt during the book, convince us he’ll lying to the DEs and is really for the Order, to shock us with the end, or it’s to say, “hey, look, he was really evil since the beginning!”, but it’s too soon. I don’t understand. I admit, I’m a fan of the Double-triple-quadruple agent theories, so it could be me in denial.
Reply
And Snape knows it perfectly, without using Occlumency.
Good catch. I think it's likely that Voldemort really doesn't trust Snape, and sent Wormtail to spy on his spy. Even though Wormtail's a turncoat, he's such a weasel that Voldemort knows he can trust him.
* I don’t understand the point of this chapter. Or it’s to make us doubt during the book, convince us he’ll lying to the DEs and is really for the Order, to shock us with the end, or it’s to say, “hey, look, he was really evil since the beginning!”, but it’s too soon. I don’t understand. I admit, I’m a fan of the Double-triple-quadruple agent theories, so it could be me in denial.
I think this chapter exists solely for the purpose of psyching us out. It does summarize the reasons why Snape has Voldemort's confidence, which actually minimizes the possibility of Snape being evil, imho. By delineating what his cover story is, we can easily trust what's going on with him. It's when the readerdoesn't know why a character is behaving oddly that you create suspicion. So, this chapter sets up tension for us, wondering what mess Snape has bluffed himself into. If it were meant to show Snape as a bad guy, then that would ruin the climax. Why have a twist ending, if you're going to give it away in the second chapter?
Reply
Or, she could say at the end: "You were surprised that Snape was evil? I told you everything right in Chapter 2 of HBP."
Reply
Reply
Leave a comment