OotP Chapter 37 - The Lost Prophecy

Jul 10, 2005 11:30

The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches...born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies...and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives...the one with the power to ( Read more... )

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house_elf_44 July 10 2005, 20:22:54 UTC
I can't decide if Dumbledore has been in his office since his confrontation with Fudge or not. The instruments are repaired, but the portrait behind the desk, which curiously is sitting on a thronelike chair, makes it sound like he hasn't been there. Don't people usually reserve that spot for ancestors? Could this be a royal ancestor of Dumbledore's?

After reading lots of fanfics, I now have it firmly in my mind that Ron and Hermione will fully recover from their wounds.

When Harry thought about never having asked Sirius about watching him play Quidditch, that got me. That's one of the worst parts of loosing a loved one - the things you wish you could ask them.

Dumbledore said "suffering like this proves you are still a man. This pain is part of being human." As opposed to what? I think the word still throws me ( ... )

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cadesama July 10 2005, 20:40:23 UTC
Dumbledore said "suffering like this proves you are still a man. This pain is part of being human." As opposed to what? I think the word still throws me.

It might be a clue regarding Harry's connection with Voldemort, since Voldemort is no longer truly human.

And how did Kreacher know to distract Sirius at that time? I had thought Harry calling #12 was the signal it was a go, but Kreacher had already gotten Sirius out of the way.

I think Kreacher knew they were moving that day. I don't think there was any communication between him and Narcissa as to when the vision had been sent that day, but it's possible. Anyway, I think Kreacher knew the vision would be in the afternoon and hurt Buckbeak badly enough that Sirius would be dealing with it for hours, rather than getting him out of the room momentarily.

Hang on, they knew teaching Harry Occlumency would further open Harry's mind to Voldemort? Would that be the part where they try to get in so Harry can try to block? Maybe they expected this risk would diminish as he practiced. ( ... )

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house_elf_44 July 11 2005, 12:46:06 UTC
It might be a clue regarding Harry's connection with Voldemort, since Voldemort is no longer truly human.

It's probably what he meant but I think it's not very smart of him to think that Voldemort, eveh though isn't truly human, doesn't feel pain. I think that pain is at least one of the things that made him the way he is. It doesn't excuse Voldemrot, of course, he is pure evil, but I think this evil is still fed by the pain from his childhood. So I agree with Dumbledore that his pain is normal and human thing to feel, but I don't think it proves anything.

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cadesama July 11 2005, 20:01:47 UTC
Yeah. I don't know if Voldemort feels pain over loss or suffering of others, which may be what Dumbledore meant (compassion litterally means to "suffer with", after all). But Voldemort definitely feels pain about other things. It's an awfully strange thing to say to comfort someone, no matter what he meant, though.

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house_elf_44 July 11 2005, 20:35:11 UTC
t's an awfully strange thing to say to comfort someone, no matter what he meant, though.

Yeah. That one of the many reasons I hated Dumbledore's behavior here. Harry needs real comfort, not Dumbledore analyzing him.

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muggle_prof July 11 2005, 01:32:01 UTC
When Harry thought about never having asked Sirius about watching him play Quidditch, that got me. That's one of the worst parts of loosing a loved one - the things you wish you could ask them.

It is a sad moment, and it's true about losing a loved one. But I was sure Sirius had told him, so I checked, and sure enough:(chapt 19, PoA) "I've been living in the forest ever since, except when I came to wath the Quidditch, of course. You fly as well as your father did, Harry..."

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