OotP Chapter 32 - Out of the Fire

Jul 04, 2005 08:26

Harry rushes out of the exam to the infirmary, looking for professor McGonagall, but she's been trasferred to St. Mungos. The next step is to grab Ron and Hermione, inform them of Sirius alleged capture, override any attempts at rational thought or common sense on their parts, and start planning ( Read more... )

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trash_addict July 4 2005, 09:01:16 UTC
Jeez, i hope after this Harry starts properly listening to Hermione and taking her advice, because she really is on the ball, and he lets his feelings get in the way of her reason.

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lawofsyllogism July 4 2005, 16:06:57 UTC
Hmm, I think it would be better to hope Harry starts developing his own latent powers of common sense, and not relying on Hermione's for the rest of his life. :) That said, I don't know a single human being who could claim that, at fifteen, they wouldn't have done exactly as Harry did. Had it been loved ones of Hermione's, do you think she'd have been as calm and reasonable about it?

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trash_addict July 5 2005, 07:47:44 UTC
I didn't mean it as an attack on Harry, simply that Jo has Hermione spot on in just about all of her explanations for a reason. Personally, as I reader, I know I'm gonna start paying a lot of attention to Hermione's explanations of things.

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trash_addict July 4 2005, 18:37:22 UTC
Knowing how it ended it easy to say that Hermione was to one who acted logical, but Harry had no way of knowing his vision was wrong. His actions, while prove to be mistaken at hindsight,were unlogical. He though Sirius was in trouble. Would any one acted differently if they saw what he saw about someone they loved? Hermione wasn't the one who actually saw the vision nor was it one of her family who was seen tortured, so it's easy for her to say they don't need to do anything. The fact that the vision proved to be wrong in the end, doesn't mean that Hermione is more right in general or that Harry's actions weren't logcial, given the information he had.

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annearchy July 5 2005, 02:43:09 UTC
Harry forgot about something important - the Christmas gift from Sirius - but he'd never bothered to open it because he was sure that whatever it was would cause him to lead Sirius into harm --when in reality, the two-way mirror (we find out later in OotP) would have helped Harry find out where Sirius really was. So that was an opportunity that could have prevented a lot of problems had Harry actually taken it months earlier.

Harry is actually doing pretty well under the circumstances, but he doesn't think of Snape being in the Order until it's almost too late. I've not been able to figure whether Snape was able to do any Legilimency on Harry, but Harry did seem to make his point by shouting about Padfoot.

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trash_addict July 5 2005, 07:52:26 UTC
I just think maybe, because she had less emotional investment in the situation, that maybe Harry could see that she may have been thinking more clearly than he was, and taken the time to take her advice and opinions on board.

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cadesama July 4 2005, 19:39:03 UTC
I hope she starts justifying her gut feelings with arguments that are actually valid if she wants Harry to listen to her. It's easy to look back at them and say that she was right because things turned out badly, but claiming that Voldemort couldn't have done something when they have no information on what Voldemort is trying to do or his capabilities, or that it doesn't make sense -- well, this is a man that rigged the Triwizard Tournament to get Harry to touch a Portkey rather than throwing one at him and knowing Harry would catch it. Voldemort's plans never make sense while they are going on. Hermione's got a bad feeling, and is trying to verbalize it. But there's no reason to it.

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