Hmm, too bad they didn't mention how many people voted for and against the "High Inquisitor" legislation. Or, uh, even who it was who voted on that. Was it the Wizengamot? 'Cause having a judiciary, headed by the executive, that's also the legislature is a bad idea on so many, unfathomably deep levels.
"He imagined trying to conceal from Hermione that he had received T's in all his OWLs" -- It's good that Harry wants to work harder. Even good, I suppose, that Hermione's presence is an influencing factor. Yet, it's phrased in such a negative way. It's not that he wants to make his friend proud, it's that he doesn't want to keep a shameful secret (one that she would be instrumental in making him feel bad about) from her.
Hee. It always amuses how much Trelawney's and Snape's teaching styles resemble each other. "Read the book. Do it." No help what so ever. However, in Potions there's actually a quantitative standard to hold things up against, and there isn't in Divination (or Trelawney doesn't bother to use it, if there is one).
Trelawney's been a professor nearly sixteen years. Harry's birthday minus nine months puts his date of conception in October(ish), which would be nearly sixteen years ago from this point in the novel. So did Trelawney make the prophecy before Harry were even conceived? Or was it the conception that triggered the prophecy?
McGonagall's gonna feel baaaad if/when she finds out the true nature of the detentions she said didn't have an effect on Harry. And the fact that Hermione agrees . . . well, I think that's pretty disgusting. Hypocritical too, since she was deliberately baiting Umbridge earlier. She's lucky that all Harry did was ignore her during Charms. I would have strangled her. She makes up for it later, but damn that's an awful thing to say.
I don't know if it's funny, or just sad that the self-confidence that inspired Harry's tirade about his accomplishments at the beginning of the book was so easily broken down to his unwillingness to take any credit for them.
Ron and Hermione seem rather shocked that Harry would bring up Cedric. Did they think he was over that??
I don't know if it's funny, or just sad that the self-confidence that inspired Harry's tirade about his accomplishments at the beginning of the book was so easily broken down to his unwillingness to take any credit for them.
I see it as an attitude adjustment. He thought too much of himself at #12, which he wrestled with, and now he has a more humble and accurate view of those events.
Except that neither POV is accurate. Harry didn't pull all that stuff off on his own, but you certainly can't attribute it all to chance as he attempt to do here. It's an attitude adjustment, but it's a terrible one that's very reminiscent of the Harry who thought the Sorting Hat would send him home (or who told faux!Moody that he doesn't have any talents), imho. I was very glad of his attitude at number twelve, even though it bordered on arrogance, because it was the first sign of healthy self-esteem that we've ever seen.
I don't know if it's funny, or just sad that the self-confidence that inspired Harry's tirade about his accomplishments at the beginning of the book was so easily broken down to his unwillingness to take any credit for them.
Well, at the beginning, he spouted off because he was being treated like an irresponsible child. Now that someone wants to put him in a position of authority, he's quick to back away from any direct involvement. Can't say I blame him. He was lucky in his past four years. Also, I don't think anyone has offered him any authority before. (He did get turned down for prefect.) I think anyone's first reaction would be reluctance (or modesty). After all, he does take it in the end...
McGonagall's gonna feel baaaad if/when she finds out the true nature of the detentions she said didn't have an effect on Harry. And the fact that Hermione agrees . . . well, I think that's pretty disgusting. Hypocritical too, since she was deliberately baiting Umbridge earlier. She's lucky that all Harry did was ignore her during Charms. I would have strangled her. She makes up for it later, but damn that's an awful thing to say.
Well, everyone does seem to take for granted that he's even alive to this point. Why should simple mutilation matter a whole lot?
Now that someone wants to put him in a position of authority, he's quick to back away from any direct involvement. Can't say I blame him. He was lucky in his past four years. Also, I don't think anyone has offered him any authority before.
Harry's got a weirdly push-pull relationship with authority -- the type that's characteric of the ambivalently attached, actually. He doesn't want anyone to control him, but he wants someone to be willing to take up that role, and he doesn't really want to be in charge himself. Well, he wants to be in charge of himself, but definitely not in charge of others. Possibly it's the years of being told that he's a worthless freak.
Well, everyone does seem to take for granted that he's even alive to this point. Why should simple mutilation matter a whole lot?
True, I mean, we've seen the same view point from Dumbledore. Who cares that Harry was abused by the Dursleys (conceivably shaping him in the same manner as Tom Riddle) he's alive! I mean, if you ignore that mere emotional neglect can and has killed infants.
...if you ignore that mere emotional neglect can and has killed infants.
I guess that prophecy acts like a twisted "get-out-guilt-trip-free" card, doesn't it? DD: "He certainly won't die there and that's all I ask." But I guess this discussion is quite a ways away, so I'll hold my tongue...
Oohhh, another "Harry-is-immortal-except-to-Voldemort" fan? Yeah, I'll give Dumbledore a little leeway if that turns out to be true, especially if he wanted Harry's childhood to mimic Tom Riddle's. I'll have a much easier time accepting him if it turns out that he's a manipulative bastard who knows what he's doing, rather than an bastard who can't even competently keep track of his plan and excuses his slip ups on the basis of being old. Whether I'll ever like him is, of course, still up in the air.
cGonagall's gonna feel baaaad if/when she finds out the true nature of the detentions she said didn't have an effect on Harry. And the fact that Hermione agrees . . . well, I think that's pretty disgusting. Hypocritical too, since she was deliberately baiting Umbridge earlier. She's lucky that all Harry did was ignore her during Charms. I would have strangled her. She makes up for it later, but damn that's an awful thing to say.
I really hope she will find out and the this won't just be ignored in the next book. Though I doubt we'll see her or Dumbledore take any king of respobsiblity or apologize for what happend to Harry in their school. The way she acted so far, putting all the blame on Harry, is not a good sign. I really hated her for the way she acted in this book. I'm still debating in Ron and Hermione did the right thing by not telling anyone. It's true that Harry didn't want to tell and as his friends, they should listen to what he wants, since it's about him, not them. From the other hand, abuse victim ofter think it's ok, it's their fault (a feeling that is supported here by the way the people around him act) and in such cased it's the duty of their friends (since he doesn't have family) is to do their best to change that. I think the least they could do is to work much harder in convincing him that there's no excuse for such thing and that he must tell Dumbledore.
The way she acted so far, putting all the blame on Harry, is not a good sign.
I'm pretty puzzled as to why she decides to put the blame on Harry for provoking an abusive person. She doesn't know about the abuse, but I don't think it would be hard to see that Harry was going to get detentions from Umbridge for breathing, because of Umbridge's vendetta against him (just look at the detention he gets during CoMC). Maybe McGonagall is just ticked that Harry isn't following her advice? I mean, if she's following it, it's a pretty big sacrifice of her own ethics to do so, so a students making that sacrifice meaningless might anger her, no matter how irrational that is.
I'm still debating in Ron and Hermione did the right thing by not telling anyone. It's true that Harry didn't want to tell and as his friends, they should listen to what he wants, since it's about him, not them.
I think that their status as prefects could have been a good excuse to get around this. They confront Harry about the abuse, ask him to tell McGonagall, and they tell him that they are obligated to come forward themselves. Thus their duties to Harry's desires as well as what he actually needs are satisfied. I think he'd feel pretty betrayed if they went behind his back to do it, though, and that would just have been counter-productive. In lieu of doing something about the abuse, Ron and Hermione are right to do their best to keep Harry's trust in them.
Maybe McGonagall is just ticked that Harry isn't following her advice? I mean, if she's following it, it's a pretty big sacrifice of her own ethics to do so, so a students making that sacrifice meaningless might anger her, no matter how irrational that is.
I think the sacrifice is meaningless anyway. It didn't do anything good, it didn't help their cause. Letting Umbridge get away with so much, just made it easier for her get even more power, which led to Dumbledore out of the school and Mcgonagall and Hagrid being attacked. And it was the students who were sacrifised more than anyone else. Her pride was maybe hurt by Umbridge, but it's the studnest who actually suffered under her authority. And it's not like Mcgonagall was so patient with Umbridge... Harry's career advice became battle between the two of them, instead of being about Harry.
I think that their status as prefects could have been a good excuse to get around this. They confront Harry about the abuse, ask him to tell McGonagall, and they tell him that they are obligated to come forward themselves. Thus their duties to Harry's desires as well as what he actually needs are satisfied. I think he'd feel pretty betrayed if they went behind his back to do it, though, and that would just have been counter-productive. In lieu of doing something about the abuse, Ron and Hermione are right to do their best to keep Harry's trust in them.
Yeah, the trust issue is the reason I'm debating over this. Harry certaily doesn't need more people betraying his trust. And I think doing this as prefect would have been much worse than acting as his friends. I mean to say to someone as your friends we hate to see you hurt like this and we really think you should tell someone would have sound a lot better than as prefects we must tell (it means than being prefect is more important to them than being Harry's friends). I'm still not sure what's the right thing to do here. I think that what they could at least do is try to convince him more than once that what's happening is very wrong and he should tell someone. Of course can blame him for not wanting to tell. None of the adults here gave him a reason to think he should come for them for help. Especially not the teahers this year and he doesn't have a good way to contact Sirius.
I think the sacrifice is meaningless anyway. It didn't do anything good, it didn't help their cause. Letting Umbridge get away with so much, just made it easier for her get even more power, which led to Dumbledore out of the school and Mcgonagall and Hagrid being attacked
I agree, but I think that I can't fault McGonagall alone for that type of thinking. All of the adults, unfortunately, seem to think that working within the system is an option at this point. Even Hermione falls back into this type of thinking (I think that's why she was baiting Umbridge in this chapter, anyway).
I mean to say to someone as your friends we hate to see you hurt like this and we really think you should tell someone would have sound a lot better than as prefects we must tell (it means than being prefect is more important to them than being Harry's friends).
True, but I was thinking that the depersonalization of it would work. They aren't "betraying" him in their role as his friends, but simply doing their duty as prefects. Depends on whether Harry really does want help. Since he was so relieved when he was able to tell Ron and Hermione, I think he actually does. It's still very tricky, though, you're right.
None of the adults here gave him a reason to think he should come for them for help. Especially not the teahers this year and he doesn't have a good way to contact Sirius.
Sadly, I think that going to McGonagall probably would have made things worse. She would be more lenient on him, but there wouldn't be anything big she can do. Harry Potter, reputation shredded by the press and favorite student of Dumbledore (also shredded, and with a nefarious plot against Fudge rumored), comes forward with allegations against the wonderful Professor Umbridge, who is working against Dumbledore's plans? It'd be terrible if it got that far. It probably wouldn't, though, leaving Harry feeling even more helpless and alone.
I agree, but I think that I can't fault McGonagall alone for that type of thinking. All of the adults, unfortunately, seem to think that working within the system is an option at this point. Even Hermione falls back into this type of thinking (I think that's why she was baiting Umbridge in this chapter, anyway).
Yeah, McGonagall is certainly not the only one. We certainly don't see Dumbledore and the others go against the system even when they see injustice just in front of them (Hagrid arrested for instance or letting Lupin be forced to leave because people are prejudice). Though I think Dumbledore has no problems ignoring the system when it suites him, but students wellfare and rights or Harry's well being (as long as he isn't dead) are important enough too him (he choosed what's easy instead of what's right).
Sadly, I think that going to McGonagall probably would have made things worse. She would be more lenient on him, but there wouldn't be anything big she can do. Harry Potter, reputation shredded by the press and favorite student of Dumbledore (also shredded, and with a nefarious plot against Fudge rumored), comes forward with allegations against the wonderful Professor Umbridge, who is working against Dumbledore's plans? It'd be terrible if it got that far. It probably wouldn't, though, leaving Harry feeling even more helpless and alone.
As long as Dumbledore and McGogonall are willing, there's planty they can do. For once one of the teachers can just come to Harry's detention and refuse to leave. Harry can show the wounds on his hand to prove what happened, they can enter her office when she isn't there and use the quill as a prove, they can use a camere without Umbridge knowing in the detentions. Maybe even all this wouldn't be enough to take her out of Hogwarts, but if they wouldn't let her just get away with everything she does, maybe she would have had limits. Plus I think that even Fudge didn't know exectly what she was doing and the wizengamot has some honest people. Wheh they really want too, they are not that helpless. The problems is, do they want too? How much is Dumbledore willing to put Harry through?
Harry can show the wounds on his hand to prove what happened, they can enter her office when she isn't there and use the quill as a prove, they can use a camere without Umbridge knowing in the detentions
I don't know. One should never underestimate the power of spin. If a teacher attended each of Harry's detentions, would Umbridge label him or her an obstrunctionist? If they document the abuse and go to the Wizengamot, doesn't that just fuel Fudge's allegations that Dumbledore is trying to subvert him? If they go to the press first (provided the press would even believe them), would the Wizengamot listen later?
I agree that the system being corrupt is no reason to lay down and take it. The morals of others don't decide the morals of our main characters, and I would respect them a great deal more if they had tried. Maybe this scandal could have brought Umbridge down before she got started. Maybe they wouldn't have been able to do anything for Harry except support him, but they could look out for the next student Umbridge did it to and use his story to oust her.
agree that the system being corrupt is no reason to lay down and take it. The morals of others don't decide the morals of our main characters, and I would respect them a great deal more if they had tried. Maybe this scandal could have brought Umbridge down before she got started. Maybe they wouldn't have been able to do anything for Harry except support him, but they could look out for the next student Umbridge did it to and use his story to oust her.
I totally agree. By not even trying to do anything about injustice, they become part of the problem. Someone in Dumbledore position doesn't have the right to not get involved or to not take responsibilty. Fudge's power doesn't come from having an army to fight for him, but for people being indifferent and accepting. Fudge,Umbride and some others are us much treat to the ww as Voldemort. Not even trying to protect people from their injustice can be as dangerous as Fudge choosing the easy way out by denaying that Voldemrot is back. And I think what happened later confirmed it. Umbridge went more and more out of control, and though I felt very sorry for McGonagall when she was attacked while trying to help Hagrid, if she acted much sooner, she may had a chance of preveting things from getting this bad. (I know she didn't actually knew what Umbridge was doing, but she chose to put the blame on Harry for Umbridge total disregard for justice and never offered support).
"He imagined trying to conceal from Hermione that he had received T's in all his OWLs" -- It's good that Harry wants to work harder. Even good, I suppose, that Hermione's presence is an influencing factor. Yet, it's phrased in such a negative way. It's not that he wants to make his friend proud, it's that he doesn't want to keep a shameful secret (one that she would be instrumental in making him feel bad about) from her.
Hee. It always amuses how much Trelawney's and Snape's teaching styles resemble each other. "Read the book. Do it." No help what so ever. However, in Potions there's actually a quantitative standard to hold things up against, and there isn't in Divination (or Trelawney doesn't bother to use it, if there is one).
Trelawney's been a professor nearly sixteen years. Harry's birthday minus nine months puts his date of conception in October(ish), which would be nearly sixteen years ago from this point in the novel. So did Trelawney make the prophecy before Harry were even conceived? Or was it the conception that triggered the prophecy?
McGonagall's gonna feel baaaad if/when she finds out the true nature of the detentions she said didn't have an effect on Harry. And the fact that Hermione agrees . . . well, I think that's pretty disgusting. Hypocritical too, since she was deliberately baiting Umbridge earlier. She's lucky that all Harry did was ignore her during Charms. I would have strangled her. She makes up for it later, but damn that's an awful thing to say.
I don't know if it's funny, or just sad that the self-confidence that inspired Harry's tirade about his accomplishments at the beginning of the book was so easily broken down to his unwillingness to take any credit for them.
Ron and Hermione seem rather shocked that Harry would bring up Cedric. Did they think he was over that??
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I see it as an attitude adjustment. He thought too much of himself at #12, which he wrestled with, and now he has a more humble and accurate view of those events.
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Well, at the beginning, he spouted off because he was being treated like an irresponsible child. Now that someone wants to put him in a position of authority, he's quick to back away from any direct involvement. Can't say I blame him. He was lucky in his past four years. Also, I don't think anyone has offered him any authority before. (He did get turned down for prefect.) I think anyone's first reaction would be reluctance (or modesty). After all, he does take it in the end...
McGonagall's gonna feel baaaad if/when she finds out the true nature of the detentions she said didn't have an effect on Harry. And the fact that Hermione agrees . . . well, I think that's pretty disgusting. Hypocritical too, since she was deliberately baiting Umbridge earlier. She's lucky that all Harry did was ignore her during Charms. I would have strangled her. She makes up for it later, but damn that's an awful thing to say.
Well, everyone does seem to take for granted that he's even alive to this point. Why should simple mutilation matter a whole lot?
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Harry's got a weirdly push-pull relationship with authority -- the type that's characteric of the ambivalently attached, actually. He doesn't want anyone to control him, but he wants someone to be willing to take up that role, and he doesn't really want to be in charge himself. Well, he wants to be in charge of himself, but definitely not in charge of others. Possibly it's the years of being told that he's a worthless freak.
Well, everyone does seem to take for granted that he's even alive to this point. Why should simple mutilation matter a whole lot?
True, I mean, we've seen the same view point from Dumbledore. Who cares that Harry was abused by the Dursleys (conceivably shaping him in the same manner as Tom Riddle) he's alive! I mean, if you ignore that mere emotional neglect can and has killed infants.
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I guess that prophecy acts like a twisted "get-out-guilt-trip-free" card, doesn't it? DD: "He certainly won't die there and that's all I ask." But I guess this discussion is quite a ways away, so I'll hold my tongue...
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Noooooooooooooo!!! Please. LOL
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I really hope she will find out and the this won't just be ignored in the next book. Though I doubt we'll see her or Dumbledore take any king of respobsiblity or apologize for what happend to Harry in their school. The way she acted so far, putting all the blame on Harry, is not a good sign.
I really hated her for the way she acted in this book.
I'm still debating in Ron and Hermione did the right thing by not telling anyone. It's true that Harry didn't want to tell and as his friends, they should listen to what he wants, since it's about him, not them. From the other hand, abuse victim ofter think it's ok, it's their fault (a feeling that is supported here by the way the people around him act) and in such cased it's the duty of their friends (since he doesn't have family) is to do their best to change that. I think the least they could do is to work much harder in convincing him that there's no excuse for such thing and that he must tell Dumbledore.
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I'm pretty puzzled as to why she decides to put the blame on Harry for provoking an abusive person. She doesn't know about the abuse, but I don't think it would be hard to see that Harry was going to get detentions from Umbridge for breathing, because of Umbridge's vendetta against him (just look at the detention he gets during CoMC). Maybe McGonagall is just ticked that Harry isn't following her advice? I mean, if she's following it, it's a pretty big sacrifice of her own ethics to do so, so a students making that sacrifice meaningless might anger her, no matter how irrational that is.
I'm still debating in Ron and Hermione did the right thing by not telling anyone. It's true that Harry didn't want to tell and as his friends, they should listen to what he wants, since it's about him, not them.
I think that their status as prefects could have been a good excuse to get around this. They confront Harry about the abuse, ask him to tell McGonagall, and they tell him that they are obligated to come forward themselves. Thus their duties to Harry's desires as well as what he actually needs are satisfied. I think he'd feel pretty betrayed if they went behind his back to do it, though, and that would just have been counter-productive. In lieu of doing something about the abuse, Ron and Hermione are right to do their best to keep Harry's trust in them.
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I think the sacrifice is meaningless anyway. It didn't do anything good, it didn't help their cause. Letting Umbridge get away with so much, just made it easier for her get even more power, which led to Dumbledore out of the school and Mcgonagall and Hagrid being attacked. And it was the students who were sacrifised more than anyone else. Her pride was maybe hurt by Umbridge, but it's the studnest who actually suffered under her authority.
And it's not like Mcgonagall was so patient with Umbridge... Harry's career advice became battle between the two of them, instead of being about Harry.
I think that their status as prefects could have been a good excuse to get around this. They confront Harry about the abuse, ask him to tell McGonagall, and they tell him that they are obligated to come forward themselves. Thus their duties to Harry's desires as well as what he actually needs are satisfied. I think he'd feel pretty betrayed if they went behind his back to do it, though, and that would just have been counter-productive. In lieu of doing something about the abuse, Ron and Hermione are right to do their best to keep Harry's trust in them.
Yeah, the trust issue is the reason I'm debating over this. Harry certaily doesn't need more people betraying his trust. And I think doing this as prefect would have been much worse than acting as his friends. I mean to say to someone as your friends we hate to see you hurt like this and we really think you should tell someone would have sound a lot better than as prefects we must tell (it means than being prefect is more important to them than being Harry's friends).
I'm still not sure what's the right thing to do here. I think that what they could at least do is try to convince him more than once that what's happening is very wrong and he should tell someone. Of course can blame him for not wanting to tell. None of the adults here gave him a reason to think he should come for them for help. Especially not the teahers this year and he doesn't have a good way to contact Sirius.
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I agree, but I think that I can't fault McGonagall alone for that type of thinking. All of the adults, unfortunately, seem to think that working within the system is an option at this point. Even Hermione falls back into this type of thinking (I think that's why she was baiting Umbridge in this chapter, anyway).
I mean to say to someone as your friends we hate to see you hurt like this and we really think you should tell someone would have sound a lot better than as prefects we must tell (it means than being prefect is more important to them than being Harry's friends).
True, but I was thinking that the depersonalization of it would work. They aren't "betraying" him in their role as his friends, but simply doing their duty as prefects. Depends on whether Harry really does want help. Since he was so relieved when he was able to tell Ron and Hermione, I think he actually does. It's still very tricky, though, you're right.
None of the adults here gave him a reason to think he should come for them for help. Especially not the teahers this year and he doesn't have a good way to contact Sirius.
Sadly, I think that going to McGonagall probably would have made things worse. She would be more lenient on him, but there wouldn't be anything big she can do. Harry Potter, reputation shredded by the press and favorite student of Dumbledore (also shredded, and with a nefarious plot against Fudge rumored), comes forward with allegations against the wonderful Professor Umbridge, who is working against Dumbledore's plans? It'd be terrible if it got that far. It probably wouldn't, though, leaving Harry feeling even more helpless and alone.
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I agree, but I think that I can't fault McGonagall alone for that type of thinking. All of the adults, unfortunately, seem to think that working within the system is an option at this point. Even Hermione falls back into this type of thinking (I think that's why she was baiting Umbridge in this chapter, anyway).
Yeah, McGonagall is certainly not the only one. We certainly don't see Dumbledore and the others go against the system even when they see injustice just in front of them (Hagrid arrested for instance or letting Lupin be forced to leave because people are prejudice). Though I think Dumbledore has no problems ignoring the system when it suites him, but students wellfare and rights or Harry's well being (as long as he isn't dead) are important enough too him (he choosed what's easy instead of what's right).
Sadly, I think that going to McGonagall probably would have made things worse. She would be more lenient on him, but there wouldn't be anything big she can do. Harry Potter, reputation shredded by the press and favorite student of Dumbledore (also shredded, and with a nefarious plot against Fudge rumored), comes forward with allegations against the wonderful Professor Umbridge, who is working against Dumbledore's plans? It'd be terrible if it got that far. It probably wouldn't, though, leaving Harry
feeling even more helpless and alone.
As long as Dumbledore and McGogonall are willing, there's planty they can do. For once one of the teachers can just come to Harry's detention and refuse to leave. Harry can show the wounds on his hand to prove what happened, they can enter her office when she isn't there and use the quill as a prove, they can use a camere without Umbridge knowing in the detentions. Maybe even all this wouldn't be enough to take her out of Hogwarts, but if they wouldn't let her just get away with everything she does, maybe she would have had limits. Plus I think that even Fudge didn't know exectly what she was doing and the wizengamot has some honest people. Wheh they really want too, they are not that helpless. The problems is, do they want too? How much is Dumbledore willing to put Harry through?
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I don't know. One should never underestimate the power of spin. If a teacher attended each of Harry's detentions, would Umbridge label him or her an obstrunctionist? If they document the abuse and go to the Wizengamot, doesn't that just fuel Fudge's allegations that Dumbledore is trying to subvert him? If they go to the press first (provided the press would even believe them), would the Wizengamot listen later?
I agree that the system being corrupt is no reason to lay down and take it. The morals of others don't decide the morals of our main characters, and I would respect them a great deal more if they had tried. Maybe this scandal could have brought Umbridge down before she got started. Maybe they wouldn't have been able to do anything for Harry except support him, but they could look out for the next student Umbridge did it to and use his story to oust her.
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I totally agree. By not even trying to do anything about injustice, they become part of the problem. Someone in Dumbledore position doesn't have the right to not get involved or to not take responsibilty. Fudge's power doesn't come from having an army to fight for him, but for people being indifferent and accepting. Fudge,Umbride and some others are us much treat to the ww as Voldemort. Not even trying to protect people from their injustice can be as dangerous as Fudge choosing the easy way out by denaying that Voldemrot is back. And I think what happened later confirmed it. Umbridge went more and more out of control, and though I felt very sorry for McGonagall when she was attacked while trying to help Hagrid, if she acted much sooner, she may had a chance of preveting things from getting this bad. (I know she didn't actually knew what Umbridge was doing, but she chose to put the blame on Harry for Umbridge total disregard for justice and never offered support).
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