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samsom January 19 2009, 03:34:29 UTC
Well, I guess this means Xander reads DC rather than Marvel.

In any case, he should have realized his friend wasn't a two dimensional super hero that always did the right thing but a flesh and blood seventeen year old girl making decisions people twice her age would stumble over.

I know it's a good drabble when it reawakens my irritation with Xander in s2. :D

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a2zmom January 19 2009, 04:45:28 UTC
A lot of people (especially B/A shippes) have a strong hate on for Xander because of season 2, but I don't.

Understand that

1. He's only 17 and scared shitless that he's likely going to die. By my guess, Angel had probably murdered upwards of 50 people by that point.

2. He still does see the world in black and white. Especially when it comes to Buffy who occupies a high pedestal in Xander's world.

3. He comes from an extremely dysfunctional, verbally abusive family who uses cruelty to get their point across. In times of Xander, Xander does the same.

By season 7, Xander has grown up more than any other character.

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a2zmom January 19 2009, 04:46:23 UTC
That should be "in times of stress". I don't even know what "in times of Xander" means!

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samsom January 19 2009, 04:51:18 UTC
I totally got it. :D

And I get all that, I really do. It's just....if he didn't excuse himself the way he wouldn't excuse Buffy. And yeah, he grew a lot. But. Look at his argument with Buffy during Selfless. My breath was somewhere in my throat from the utter audacity he had in using that argument with her. And for once, she actually didn't take it from him.

I don't hate Xander, not even during s2. But I did judge him because I felt so much of his attitude with Angel came from his odd need to possess Buffy. Or at least be the moral judge of her choices.

I don't disagree with you. I guess I just have less tolerance. Bad me.

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a2zmom January 19 2009, 19:15:03 UTC
I don't mind Xander's argument in Selfless. It's where he's finally forced to come to terms with his actions from all these years ago. (And I think he does.) Before this moment, he never got what Buffy went through, now he does.

And I don't he ever felt the need to possess Buffy (although I've heard that before). It's just that he thinks she's much more perfect than she is and whenever she disappoints him, he lashes out.

I guess I just don't his faults any more grievous than Buffy's, Willow's or Giles'.

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