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Oct 25, 2005 23:31

So I guess I have become notorious for being a person who made a good choice, but went do the bad path and is now a horrible person. But I really don't care if you think i have changed because I smoke pot. Because i havent changed one bit. And any of you who aren't close minded and fucking idiotic should be able to see that. I might have changed. ( Read more... )

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kiss_me_im_fat October 27 2005, 03:21:40 UTC
True, but also in above comments you said although smoking weed does not really hurt you, it can lead to other more crazy drugs. ". so yes, scientists may be able to prove it's not that detrimental, but my concern is that marijuana usually brings people to do worse drugs that will have long term effects and can possibly kill you"
"it doesn't matter. they may think that now, but getting involved with any drug at all will bring changes to certain ways you think, whether you believe it or not."
You even based this on your own experience with doing drugs. So basically, you have said that you dont have to be a messed up person to do drugs, and that even drugs like weed can really mess you up and make yout think differently. If you become messed up because of drugs, then you are what you call "a pretty messed up person".
Drugs+normal person=messed up person, which could lead to worse things. i.e killing. How many times have you seen the news and someone on drugs has killed someone else? ALL THE TIME so yes, killing can have its roots in doing drugs.

"friends don't turn their back on each other because of a decision, they stick with them through the choices they make, whether they support them or not."

why should i support him when he is doing something i dont belive in? If suddenly my best freind joins the KKK and i am black, should i support him? Its the same, its all about belifes, so if you are ready to inult someones beleifs, be ready to lose freindship. REmeber friendship goes both ways, if he actually cared about his freids that he has and didnt want to lose them, maybe he would have thought twice about starting to smoke.

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____hydrostatic October 27 2005, 05:54:28 UTC
i said you don't have to be a messed up person to smoke weed, yes. and it's true. crazy people may smoke pot and other might not be crazy. that's how many things in life work. it's his decision whether or not to let the marijuana lead him to other, worse drugs, and hopefully he will make the right decision. maybe his friends will even help him make the right decision. so just because nick is smoking weed doesn't mean he is going to go kill someone. what the heck? drugs that alter your mind and make you make crazy decisions may lead you to kill a person, i guess, but that's a whole other story. that has nothing to do with this. as long as nick says he is only doing weed, then what are you talking about with this murder stuff?

i said friends don't turn their back on each other, whether you support them or not. you don't have to support his decision. i don't support it. but that's how friendships work sometimes. you won't always agree with one another and you have to accept that. not bult when there is a conflict in beliefs.

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kiss_me_im_fat October 27 2005, 05:59:49 UTC
PS-only doing weed. haha i like how you play it so that it makes it seem like its not even a big deal.

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kiss_me_im_fat October 27 2005, 06:00:16 UTC
"as long as nick says he is only doing weed, then what are you talking about with this murder stuff?" again, i bring up your own words, "it doesn't matter. they may think that now, but getting involved with any drug at all will bring changes to certain ways you think, whether you believe it or not."

so you say "nick will only do weed" when you said that he will think differently when he does it, hence now he may say it, but in the long run it "will bring changes to certain ways you think, whether you believe it or not" causing him to possibly do other harmful things

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____hydrostatic October 27 2005, 06:13:30 UTC
"certain ways you think," as in changing your views. not thinking "OH HEY MAYBE I'LL GO KILL SOMEONE." sorry if i didn't make that clear. and i say "only" because when you talk about murder, you are talking baout stuff watyyyyyyy beyond marijuana. and sure, smoking weed will make you hang around people who do it too because it's a similar interest, and they may do other drugs other than weed. but as long as you have friends who don't do it to support you, they cna keep you from that and maybe even help you do what they think is best for you. if all nick's friends turn their backs on him, you are just supporting the problem because maybe you could be one of the ones to make him stop if you think that's what's right, but instead walking away will just feed the problem, and not help it, it will just go downhill. and that's not what friends are for. maybe nick was not one of your good friends, but if your best friend made this decision, would you act the same towards them? i hope not.

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_w_alls_ October 27 2005, 17:13:26 UTC
colby. i have smoked weed pretty much since the begining of eighth grade. and i havent changed.

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kiss_me_im_fat October 27 2005, 16:11:19 UTC
he said he doesnt care what we think....have you not read what hes been saying? You make no snese at all, what im trying to say is that drugs can mess you up, you said it yourself, and messed up people do worse things, its in the news all the time. therefore, drugs are a step in the wrong direction. you cannot argue against me in that. I wish i could just talk to nick, instead of his secretary or whatever you have chosen to become.

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____hydrostatic October 27 2005, 16:39:06 UTC
okay, ryan. i really didn't mean to upset you over all this. i'm sorry if i'm offending you or pissing you off. it just seemed a little harsh or whatever when you said you wouldn't hang out with him. no, i'm not going to argue trhat drugs will mess you up, because yes, they will. and i never said they won't. i just think this is so messed up how one decision he makes can make you turn your back on him. becuase i know if my friends had done that to me, who knows where i'd be now. maybe you think it's okay to just scram in this situation, and hey, that's your opinion. i just strongly disagreee and i think that it's a really jerkish thing to do. but i don't decide what kind of friend you are to your firends, you do. and once again, i'm sorry for bothering you, i didn't mean to turn this into anything.

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kiss_me_im_fat October 27 2005, 16:46:07 UTC
Ok jessica, you are not pissing me off, we are freinds and freinds quarrel sometimes. All im saying is that nick is not going through a hard time, he likes smoking weed. Therfore why does he suddenly need everyones support and help? All he said was that he liked and smoked weed alot now.
And finally, maybe it may seem harsh or whatever but him doing weed makes me feel in a position where i am less likley to call him up and ask him to hang out. Am I wrong for how i feel? I dont even care if he does weed, he can do it until he dies for all i care. He seems to not care what anyone thinks, just as long as he doesnt call people who think doing drugs are making a bad choice close minded and "dickheads", then im totally fine and have nothing to argue about.

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labouche_fan October 27 2005, 17:38:56 UTC
i dont recall nick asking for anyones support or help

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kiss_me_im_fat October 27 2005, 23:15:42 UTC
jessica is saying that freinds stick with eachother through tough times. this is not a tough time. nick just somkes weed.

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