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christycorr September 28 2011, 22:48:29 UTC
*snerk*! Awesome.

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papilio_luna September 28 2011, 22:51:05 UTC
If that's true, I concur with fuckthisshit.gif.

What the past four episodes have done quite successfully is demonstrate to me that my general dislike of Mofftiem is actually 95% about his obsession with multi-episode-multi-series-multi-dimensional-never-fucking-ending arcs that seem to be rammed in to perfectly-good-otherwise characters and stories without even the courtesy of using some lube.

Yeah, feelings: I haz them.

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_thirty2flavors September 28 2011, 22:54:18 UTC
Yeah, endless teasing with zero payoff that leaves me increasingly convinced the people in charge are just making shit up as they go along is what got me to flounce from HIMYM, strangely enough. I don't mind some degree of over-arching intrigue, but once I stop feeling like I'm ever going to get any answers and that when/if I do actually get answers four years later they're going to be some insufficient bullshit, yeaaaaaaaaaaah, not so great for my attention span or investment. I knew going in to AGMGTW that there was absolutely no reveal they could do with River that would be worth three years of build-up, and that was true.

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afterthree September 28 2011, 23:10:04 UTC
Yeah, I'm like 4 episodes behind in Moffatt Who and haven't been invested since the middle of last season. I find his series visually tempting (man, Moffatt can frame a stunning shot, and I want to have sex with some of his art direction) but not very engaging storytelling-wise ( ... )

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_thirty2flavors September 28 2011, 23:15:09 UTC
The last four episodes (well... three episodes) have been some of the best of this season, so you've sort of missed out, but we're due for episode 13 this week and it's Moffat again and I already have seen a review that was like "THIS WAS GREAT but if you didn't like 6x08 or 6x09 you won't like this", which I guess means I am going to hate 6x13 with every fibre of my being, lol.

His characters are flat and unpredictably random, his Doctor doesn't seem to have much of a character of his own try as Matt might, and the GOTCHA TIME PARADOX stories are recycled and way over-used.

CORRECT. I like moments here and there, but it's almost always when a writer other than Moffat is given the lead. Series 6 has been a mixed bag for me and is easily, easily my least favourite series, yet it has a couple (6x04, and 6x10) that I absolutely love -- because they're almost entirely divorced from the overall plot of the season and because they're some of the rare episodes where the new crew feel like actual real people with actual real emotions and ( ... )

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fauxkaren September 28 2011, 22:56:30 UTC
I really want to make a post comparing Moffat!Who to Lost because I think that they have a lot of the same problems. Namely, dragging storylines out for too long. Not giving enough answers or giving half-assed answers when you do give answers that really only lead to another questions. And also the feeling that this is all being made up as the writers go along, and thus all these plots and mysteries just keep getting piled on until you can't remember what the main point of it all was any more.

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_thirty2flavors September 28 2011, 23:17:41 UTC
I never watched Lost but that's precisely what I see happening to Doctor Who right now. I guess to some degree your patience for these kinds of plots depends in how much faith you have in the writer to pull off a satisfying ending, and since my faith in Moffat's ability to end his plot-arcs in ways I find satisfying, let alone after years and years of buildup, is basically nil, my faith in the general outcome is likewise limited.

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fauxkaren September 28 2011, 23:21:05 UTC
Lost burned me so bad. I had faith in the writers. I truly believe that it would all come together for a fantastic ending.

It did not.

UGH. The finale was awful.

The counterpoint to this is Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes. That story spanned 5 series, but it was totally worth it in the end.

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papilio_luna September 29 2011, 01:11:53 UTC
I think also whether or not you enjoy this depends on whether or not you like your shows to present puzzles to solve and Where's Waldo's to complete. Apparently lots of people love that shit because doctorwho is always chock full of "I have this theory about the apple and the rubik's cube and the Doctor's new coat and how that could mean that River Song is actually a Voord [monster from First Doctor era because for some reason we have to keep having theories involving bringing back old monsters] because of the first letters of all of those things and how in Swahili they make an anagram for whateverthefuck ( ... )

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fauxkaren September 28 2011, 23:02:14 UTC
Aaalso, do you have a link to where that quote came from? I am intrigued.

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fauxkaren September 28 2011, 23:21:39 UTC
TY! I think I need to read spoilers in order to ~mentally prepare~ myself for the finale.

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_thirty2flavors September 28 2011, 23:23:29 UTC
LOL THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING/DOING.

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doctahr September 28 2011, 23:34:15 UTC
I do believe he whispered his name to her. Like Silence in the Library.

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