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_thirty2flavors

sometimes we even watch things that don't have david tennant in them

Sep 27, 2011 01:08

LOL in our continuing quest to watch ALL THE THINGS with Doctor Who alum, firstofoct and I just watched The Ruby in the Smoke with Billie Piper and Matt Smith.

( Spoilers I guess for the Sally Lockhart series. And also s6 of Doctor Who. )

billie piper's tears are my kryptonite, books: best weapons in the world, do i need to make actor tags?, hannah leads a double life, project watch all the things

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bluetooth16 September 27 2011, 05:39:29 UTC

Should someone who's never heard of this before read the books first or watch the series first?

_thirty2flavors September 27 2011, 05:42:17 UTC

HMMM. I enjoyed the books more, and I got the lulz of picturing Billie Piper and Matt Smith in their roles anyway (which is part of what made me enjoy the books). Plus, my two favourite books in the series are the 3rd and 4th, which weren't made into movies.

bluetooth16 September 27 2011, 05:51:50 UTC

How many books are there total? Also, who wrote them?

_thirty2flavors September 27 2011, 05:56:06 UTC

4, and they're Phillip Pullman, and they're very... Pullman. So, IDK, you can usually see his ~agenda~, whatever that agenda may be, throuhg his writing. Or at least you could in books 3 and 4 more clearly, which might be why I liked them more. Most of them are pretty short.

bluetooth16 September 27 2011, 05:58:09 UTC

I don't curr about his atheist agenda. I'm just glad that the books are short because I'm already trying to plough though a series with multiple books over 500 pages long.

_thirty2flavors September 27 2011, 06:01:52 UTC

The atheist agenda isn't strong (that I recall) in Sally Lockhart, but you get a lot of other political stuff cropping up. Actually I think that's part of why I liked book 3 a lot, there was lots of feminism/women's rights stuff and even some bbZionists for Liz!

I think these are like in the 200-range. Book 3 is a bit longer and might be more like 350.

bluetooth16 September 27 2011, 06:05:14 UTC

I can deal with that. What I can't deal with is blatant mentions of US left wing politics. As Liz can attest, that will make me fly off the handle with rage.

That's good because I'm reading the Outlander series now, where each book is anywhere from 700-1,300 pages.

_thirty2flavors September 27 2011, 06:08:05 UTC

Pullman is pretty left, thinking on it I think there is some bbsocialism to go with the bbZionism. But it's also all set in Britain, and back in Victorian era, so IDK.

LOL THAT IS TOO LONG TBH, only JKR can convince me to read stuff that long. That's part of the reason I am way too lazy to read ASOIAF.

bluetooth16 September 27 2011, 06:12:08 UTC

If it's the olden times, it's OK. Post 1950's stuff is what usually triggers my blind rage.

It's insanely long, but I'm a completist. Also, I have this funny idea in my head of making my graduate thesis an analysis of the history presented in the series. I'm never getting through ASOIAF because it's simply not my cup of tea.

bazcat89 September 27 2011, 15:12:21 UTC

Pullman has nothing to do with US politics. At least, in terms of the two book series in question.

Basically, HDM and the Sally Lockhart books are brilliantly written books aimed at YA audiences, but they are also stealth polemics. HDM is a polemic against organized religion, and Sally Lockhart is a polemic against capitalism in the context of Victorian London.

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