Cosmic justice, prepaid debt and debt payable

Jan 03, 2006 08:36

This crazy little thread in HPFGU, on top of confirming my suspicion that folks there don't necessarily debate any more sensibly than those in any other forum (I mean, Dudley's "fat, ugly face"??? Come on!!!), also got me thinking about the way 'comeupance' seems to work in Rowling's universe ( Read more... )

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romeoambiences January 4 2006, 04:38:12 UTC
I am not agreeing with this system,
I am merely saying I think it exists in her books

Heh...I didn't mean to imply that you did. It's just the possibility of this being the case for the books making me crazy.

some of the heroes' morally questionable
behaviors backfired on them

But have they learned anything from those instances? If they haven't (and it hasn't been demonstrated to me that they have), how are they any different from Sirius?

they were also the main causes of the very death.

*nods*
I'd say the victims' behaviors would have to change first
before these "good" kids realize what they'd done

I can't say this isn't what might happen, but I hate the very concept. Are these supposed to be our heroes? People who merely feel smug about disfiguring a fellow student. Do they not ever reconsider their actions from the standpoint of being humane beings?

I'd rather see the good kids finally owning up to their many errors, but I just don't see how

Maybe I am doomed to disappointment, but I think one of these "good" kids needs to do something which is indicted by the text.

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_rp_zeal_ January 4 2006, 16:04:30 UTC
But have they learned anything from those instances? If they haven't (and it hasn't been demonstrated to me that they have), how are they any different from Sirius?

True! I am also of the opinion that it's more important that a wrong is recognized is a wrong, than getting characters punished but never learning from the experience... Maybe the 7th book will work differently, in that at least the more central kid characters actually grow up and become mature beings that very few adults in Potterverse have demonstrated to be?

Do they not ever reconsider their actions from the standpoint of being humane beings?

I shudder to think the Marietta incident would not be delt with in a much, much different light in book 7. It just has to! Cho's reactions then (compassion toward her friend, horror toward Hermione's actions) was reassurance enough- at least somebody was sane!

Maybe I am doomed to disappointment, but I think one of these "good" kids needs to do something which is indicted by the text.

I hope so! After all there is just this one last book left, characters like the Dursleys Rowling might've decided to leave "unredeemed" (except for maybe Petunia, who is SuperLily's sister afer all), but some of the "good" kids- Hermione and the twins especially, IMO- would really have to atone for at least their worst actions in order to justify their positions in the series as light characters.

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