uhhh wtf did he just say?

Oct 19, 2005 13:24

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If you would not abort an undeveloped fetus

Why do you not cry every time you have your period?

Question:

If an aborted fetus is going to be thrown in the garbage disposal anyways

What's wrong with stealing a few stem cells?

Question:What's the difference between taking a dead man's liver ( Read more... )

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anonymous November 2 2005, 02:48:03 UTC
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anonymous November 2 2005, 02:49:29 UTC
some of that is worded wrong but you peoples get the meaning

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_pulkritudinous November 2 2005, 22:11:32 UTC
this argument has to have the most holes in it than any other argument i have ever heard in my life.

Q1:
first off, you've strayed from the subject of the matter. I don't care whether the sex was "immoral" or not. and besides, you're forgetting about the thousands of rape victims, and married couples whose birth control fails. i can't really tell exacty what your argument is here, but if you have a problem with giving something life and then taking it away, what if the mother was poor and would have starved the child? would you rather it have developed a brain with nerve endings before she dumped it in the trashcan? what about the trashbag someone ran over on the highway and it ended up having a baby in it. what about the 24 year old girl who put her baby in the trash can?

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are you dumb, is all i can say. if i may repeat, you said a stem cell wouldn't do anything for anyone? but a liver would benefit science? i'm deciding whether or not i should even bother explaining this one. Go look up uses of stem cells.... ( ... )

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anonymous November 3 2005, 22:44:27 UTC
Sorry about not fully explaining stuff and not wording things right, but you really should have been able to tell what i meant (unless you started with the assumption i was an idiot or you are completely lacking morals)i'll correct what i meant and tell you where you're still wrong ( ... )

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anonymous November 3 2005, 22:45:38 UTC
be sure to read the whole thing, not paying attention to little details is what really gets ya ^_^

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anonymous November 3 2005, 23:04:20 UTC
oh yeah... another page on the site i found on rape/abortion, even though rape isn't as common as other cases, I have a feeling you should read this one too before replying
http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_29.asp#rape

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_pulkritudinous November 4 2005, 04:01:33 UTC
1st)
Holy shit. You can't make an argument can you. I'm not even going to waste my time expanding on this, it offends me that you put something this dumb on my jounal. Have you ever debated in your life? I don't want to say something I will regret, so moving right along ( ... )

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anonymous November 4 2005, 04:24:56 UTC
Happy birthday ^_^

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anonymous November 4 2005, 04:28:57 UTC
^that time is off by 5 hours or so from here

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_pulkritudinous November 4 2005, 21:27:01 UTC
why thank you

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anonymous November 6 2005, 01:32:49 UTC
From what I'm reading, I suppose you plan on having sex twice in your life, concieving, and being done with it. But oh no...what if you didn't get pregnant the first time? All your careful planning would go out the window. How immoral it would be for you to have sex more than once...all the times you didn't get pregant, you were being sexually immoral. Maybe we should just head this problem off at the pass and get pregant every time we have sex. Then we can be popping out a good thirty-something babies and dying in childbirth at age 40. That way, no poor fetuses miss a chance at "life" (if you call living in the slums with twenty brothers and sisters and a single mother because her husband left because he couldn't take it anymore a "life"). Nobody could be called sexually immoral, because they were simply having sex for children. That's innocent, right? Oh yeah, God's going to smile upon you. How many fucking kids are there already that are unwanted and abandoned, and here you are popping babies out right and left like a ( ... )

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sieve1973 November 6 2005, 01:33:30 UTC
That was me, by the way. Bring on the controversy...

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anonymous November 6 2005, 19:21:25 UTC
what i was saying is don't do something without being ready for the consequences, it's perfectly fine to have sex but you should expect children eventually, if you never want children the only way to make sure you don't have any is not to have sex(or sterilization if you really want to), just doing it and killing the fetus when you do get pregnant is immoral because you're ignoring consequences and getting rid of someones chance at life, but you people just seem to manipulate every error i make while trying to explain it and make me sound stupid. Although, a 16 year old has no way of supporting a kid yet (unless i'm mistaken), and really shouldn't be doing stuff

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sieve1973 November 6 2005, 22:56:44 UTC
But having an abortion IS being ready for the consequences. Do you think that it is a decision people make lightly? If I have sex, I'm not saying, "Oh yeah, if I get pregant I can just have an abortion. No biggie." Making the decision to have an abortion is harder than the decision to have a child. By now, we all understand that you don't want to have sex. That's fine. All the power to you. That's a good way of avoiding having kids for you - either that or sterilization. But just because I don't want kids NOW doesn't mean I won't EVER want kids, and I think it would be acting rashly to sterilize yourself as a teen and then never being able to have children later on in your life. Just because I might want to have sex as a teen and you don't doesn't mean you can label me as immoral. And I beg to differ about teen parents - I have several peers who work six days a week in order to support their babies - and are succeeding at that, while going to school and providing for their future. That's the life they chose - they faced ( ... )

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anonymous November 7 2005, 00:36:38 UTC
i've said this over and over again, having an abortion is killing someones chance at life. If having a decision to abort is harder than the decision to have a kid, just have the kid, it's even safer(yep look it up), if you don't want it/can't care for it, put it up for adoption. Sex at any age is immorral if you are unprepaired to deal with a child though. If you do nearly ANYTHING irresponsible with regards to someone elses life (i.e. kill, make yours better by making theirs worse, put them through unneeded pain and/or suffering, etc.) it IS immoral, and abortion is taking a chance at life away so i don't see how that would be different. The teen parents that can get through are just fine because they were able to support their kid. Every person who chooses abortion, even though it would be painful to them, they are still throwing away the babies life so they can have a better one themselves, the teen parents prove that people can support their babies if they try and are commendable for not taking the easy,yet emotionally painful, ( ... )

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anonymous November 7 2005, 00:38:36 UTC
and for the sterilization bit, i'm reasoning with everyone in mind, not just one age group

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