Comments | _phineas_: strike 3, you're out.

_phineas_

strike 3, you're out.

Dec 22, 2005 08:43

these plus this should make for an, um, interesting(?) day ( Read more... )

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ktjeffries December 22 2005, 14:52:52 UTC

That first link was really interesting, thanks.

I noticed they make some good money too...but then i remembered it isnt florida, and everything there is 50% more than it is here.

_phineas_ December 22 2005, 15:08:34 UTC

no. it's more than enough. they're being completely unreasonable. these are not skilled workers. these aren't even jobs that require any sort of mental awareness. the average employee contribution to a pension plan in the u.s. is 5%, they're paying 2, and complaining that the mta wants to increase it to 6. the avg retirement age in the u.s. is 65. they retire at 55, and are complaining about an increase to 62. toussaint is trying to be the new martin luther king, martyr-like. i'm sorry, but they're going to have to make a MUCH stronger argument than "feel bad for us poor people who didn't pay attention in class and are consequently sentenced to work on a train, make decent money, and get great benefits. i can tell you, my three bedroom apt in brooklyn is 2200/mo (total) the same apt in queens, which isn't exactly b.f.e., goes for substantially less. these people aren't starving children in yuganda.

_phineas_ December 22 2005, 15:10:48 UTC

edit. ok, so maybe there's some mental awareness required for a bus driver, but $63,000 to drive in odd-shaped circles is more than enough.

xhate_destroysx December 22 2005, 17:10:31 UTC

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20051222/D8ELDDIG5.html

jellybeancurse December 23 2005, 03:19:20 UTC

Average salary of bus drivers in NYC according to the NYC government website is around $40k(experienced...entry level is $26k). Janitors and cleaners make about $24k (experience....entry level is $14k). Check it out. http://www.labor.state.ny.us/workforceindustrydata/apps.asp?reg=nys&app=wages

plus im for any excuse for people to organize. out society is so atomized as it is.

_phineas_ January 12 2006, 17:31:25 UTC

i dunno why, but i just now got the email saying you posted this comment.

that statistic is for ALL bus drivers except school bus drivers, meaning everything from the chinatown people to the buses from port authority (intercity, which is like the charter buses.)

i trust the new york times source as being reliable, especially since they got their information directly from the MTA.

biomech_druid December 24 2005, 20:39:20 UTC

I agree. And it's a shame that teachers are making almost the same amount of money as someone who sits in a booth all day long pointing to a subway map on the wall whenever you ask them what train to take because they're too lazy to tell you themselves; while teachers are shaping the future minds of this country, not to mention dealing with rowdy students, disrespectful parents, plus having to devote most of their free time in the evenings for correcting tests, quizzes, and homework.