Interesting things learned from the old friends list
Well, first of all, there are apparently evil people on it. Specifically, molly_may for linking to Qwyzzle yesterday, which led to me spending four hours this evening solving puzzles. I quit at #34 - seemed like it would take way more brain power than I had available at the time. Further sign of evilness? I couldn't get it to work in Firefox so I had to use
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Ha! Definitely the weakest episode of the season, and I'm hoping it's all uphill from here. To be honest, S1 didn't really start to rock until later in the season for me, so. And who am I kidding, as long as Jason Dohring is looking cute, I'll be happy to be there. *shallow*
I don't see what's so wrong about the squeeing fangirls, nor do I see anything wrong with it being a forgone conclusion that they will become a couple at some point.
Yeah, me neither. I mean, if not for Brian/Justin, I doubt I would have watched QAF, and certainly would never have been obsessed with it. So what if some people only watch a show for a couple? Shock, horror! With VM, it was Logan/Veronica that got me really hooked on the show. I like romance, I like 'ships. It tends to be the deciding factor for me between "That's a great show" and "OMGILOVETHATSHOW!!!!!!!!!" But I don't see how I'm like, oppressing the rest of fandom. Or something.
the showrunners make everything about the couple, not the 'shippers.
Exactly. And with L/V and Kara/Lee, viewers are just responding to what they see on screen. I think some people just don't like "conventional" ships for whatever reasons.
And on a catty note: How can you not tell the difference between Lee and Helo? Aside from the foot or so in height difference, Helo was on a different planet and all in S1. Maybe if she paid more attention to, you know, *the show* and less to what other fans think, she'd enjoy BSG more! ;)
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I agree wholeheartedly. I like a lot of shows, but the ones I obsess about are invariably because I obsess about 'ships.
But I don't see how I'm like, oppressing the rest of fandom. Or something.
I think this feeling of resentment towards 'shippers stems from the fact that as fandom has "come out of the closet", as it were, TV show creators, writers and producers have become aware of the fact that the people who are most likely to spend money, convert people into fans and make their show known are 'shippers. I mean, let's face it, 'shippers are usually the most vocal group. And I think they get more and more obstinate about it the more people look down on their 'shipping ways. But that may be just me. *g* I never used to identify myself to others as a 'shipper, but the more derogatory comments I saw, the more I took pride in being a 'shipper.
How can you not tell the difference between Lee and Helo?
Gah! This is like not being able to tell the difference between Logan and Duncan. Maybe I'm just used to being an involved viewer, or just not viewing at all (I never ever channel surf anymore, and I haven't watched broadcast TV for over a year - I download everything), but with two characters as different as Logan and Duncan or Helo and Apollo (and Helo and Apollo even interact with different people for the most part, so you can usually tell who's why just by who they're talking to) not being able to tell them apart shows a real lack of interest in the story being told. So why watch at all?
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Yeah, there are very few exceptions for me. Homicide is one -- there wasn't really a big 'ship there, but in a way, the partnerships between the cops were like romances without the sex.
My friends were trying to get me to watch Farscape for the longest time, and after the pilot I feared the muppets and cheesiness. But they told me John and Aeryn get together so I was much more inclined to keep viewing, lol. And I ended up loving the show. Which reminds me, I'm only halfway through S2, I really need to get on that.
I think this feeling of resentment towards 'shippers stems from the fact that as fandom has "come out of the closet", as it were
ITA with you.
Personally, it's not like all I care about is *just* the 'ship. It's the mechanism that really draws me in and hooks me, but it's a part of the whole package. As much as I love L/V, for example, I also adore Keith, Wallace, Mac, etc., etc. I just don't rewind those scenes over and over like I do the kiss in 118. Heh.
not being able to tell them apart shows a real lack of interest in the story being told. So why watch at all?
My thoughts exactly! I don't think the problem is the Lee/Kara 'shippers here!
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