hope this helps, message me if you need more.basementamnesiaMarch 7 2007, 08:56:05 UTC
its about how and why god almighty decided to create heaven and hell. from what i can understand infralapsarians believe that when man fell from grace, god chose to create eternal salvation or eternal life, i.e. heaven, as a form of salvation or a solution to the presence of evil. Supralapsarians believe however, that the fall of man was part of gods plan. that god intended for a hell and wanted lucifer to do his thing in order for there to be salvation. sublapsarians also believe that god wanted there to be a hell so that non-believers would be damned and believers would be chosen for heaven.
the thing about dictionary.com's definition is that it eludes to a concept of what god was expecting (a rediculous concept). this is like talking about what god's favorite color might be. the infralapsarians say that god let man fall and then had to fix the problem by creating heaven. the supralapsarians think that god intended for a fall of man, and he ALLOWED for it as a conscious action, or Decree. the subpralapsarians believe that god intended from the start both the fall and the salvation that IT WAS ALL part of his plan. it's fucking assinign bullshit if you ask me. believing in life after death is even more rediculous than believing in god, and you can quote me on that.
sorry i forgot thisbasementamnesiaMarch 7 2007, 09:02:29 UTC
oh shit sorry, postlapsarian means after the fall of man, but dictionary.com could have told you that too. lapsus means slip and infra means before. so infralapsarianism is a belief about god's intentions before the fall of man. postlapsarianism is how man lives today.
perhaps the naked people are smiling wanly because they are fallen from grace but know that there is salvation for the believers? all the lapsarianisms believe in heaven but if i had to guess i'd say the naked people are subprelapsarians because i think believing that god intended the fall and intended the creation of salvation is the most flattering way to think of god.
Re: sorry i forgot this_computerMarch 7 2007, 16:35:16 UTC
this really helped. thanks, josh. i believe that the naked lovers are in fact postlapsarians. even though subprelapsarians is a much more attractive looking word and i think i'm going to use this seventeen times today. see you next month?
the thing about dictionary.com's definition is that it eludes to a concept of what god was expecting (a rediculous concept). this is like talking about what god's favorite color might be. the infralapsarians say that god let man fall and then had to fix the problem by creating heaven. the supralapsarians think that god intended for a fall of man, and he ALLOWED for it as a conscious action, or Decree. the subpralapsarians believe that god intended from the start both the fall and the salvation that IT WAS ALL part of his plan. it's fucking assinign bullshit if you ask me. believing in life after death is even more rediculous than believing in god, and you can quote me on that.
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perhaps the naked people are smiling wanly because they are fallen from grace but know that there is salvation for the believers? all the lapsarianisms believe in heaven but if i had to guess i'd say the naked people are subprelapsarians because i think believing that god intended the fall and intended the creation of salvation is the most flattering way to think of god.
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i believe that the naked lovers are in fact postlapsarians.
even though subprelapsarians is a much more attractive looking word and i think i'm going to use this seventeen times today.
see you next month?
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