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Oh Ronald…why do our discussions always snowball out of control? You write one line…I write two. I write two pages…you write an autobiography. =P Now I have to write a novel

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Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

What is so hard to understand about changing the world by fixing these? Perhaps your reading and comprehension skills are in need of work. Maybe that ADD kicked in and you stopped reading once you realized that I hadn’t accepted most of what you said. You most likely thought to yourself, “Well how could he? After all, he is Ron.” Maybe you ended up saying “its just like I expected, he missed the entire fucking point of this post.” Those are the only two options you explored to respond the way you did. Well, the answer was choice number 3, you said a lot of bullshit so I flushed the toilet. Luckily for you though, over the summer I learned how to speak idiot and was able to translate most of it. You are damn right I didn’t think of it in a “different way” because your “different way” is for the fucking birds Phil, re-read.
“Who am I to trash talk teachers?” I know I know bad sentence structure and a quote that was not properly introduced. Uh oh lookout, I’m going to do it again. “What do I know about teaching? Do I even know any teachers? Do I even know what channels to go through to get education reform in? I bet you don’t.” Well, my grandmother taught high school in Guyana for 27 years. My Father taught Economics at Oxford (In England, the one hoof attended) and at Guyana’s only University (that’s how he met my mother). Oh, and my mother held the same position as the Provost of Mercer for 21 years at the University of Guyana only, she was referred to as “Chancellor.” My mother would later drop all of that and come here, where she would start over from scratch knowing “absolutely no one of power doing, saying and trying everything someone else had already done.” The only difference here is that she did all of them comparatively, way fucking better than the rest of her “Phil minded” pack. Oh fuck me, someone said something about not being able to do much in our society unless you had…what was it, connections? Ever heard of NEW FUCKING MONEY? As for my own work in the area, hmm, I guess meeting with the Dean of the Business School and Dr. Lynch after helping “teach” one of the hardest business electives this summer for the FIRST time and having a 100% success rate isn’t much to mention. Yea…I kind of planned out the structure of how students will learn Quantitative analysis in the Business School. Every single note and handout they will receive isn’t out of their textbook but from my own head. Just a minor addition, my personality test said my best three career choices from top to bottom went Teacher, CEO, and CFO (Chief financial officer). So yup, I’d say all in all, I have no fucking clue what the hell I’m talking about.
Now let’s tackle this issue of me beating around the bush. Know this, I am always thinking. When you speak to me, if it’s something that has a really long shelf-life argument wise, it becomes increasingly difficult for me to continue. In your world, you hear something and then you either accept or reject it. In mine, whatever concept or thing I’ve just heard gets spun over and over again and even while I’m arguing with you, I’m elsewhere in my thoughts.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

Upon revisiting your claims that sacrifice is the most important thing concerning change, again I say please, re-read. I did not misunderstand what you were saying about sacrifice its clear as day and in my previous comments I agree on how it fits into change. The fact that you missed the nail with the hammer is also blindingly clear. Sacrifice is a FUCKING COST OF EVERY CHANGE! Tell me Phil, say you are buying a car, is the FIRST THING that comes to mind HOW much money you will have to sacrifice? FUCK NO. Before you get there, DON’T you have to fucking MAKE a decision about what to do!?! Oh DEAR GOD, Where oh WHERE DO WE GET THE INFO NEEDED TO MAKE DECISIONS? Do I hear personal values somewhere out there in the crowd? No, I fucking hear sacrifices all over again. Let me simplify this shit for you. When I look at the car I decide, do I want to buy the car or not or can I buy the car or not (THIS IS THE FUCKIN BARRIER TO CHANGE THIS DECISION!!!). THE OUTCOME of this decision relies on WHAT THE PERSON IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE (time, money, resources) BASED ON PERSONAL VALUE WHICH IS THEN DERIVED FROM OUR PARENTS AND OUR ENVIRONMENT! What the fuck are you doing trying to sacrifice something if you haven’t even decided to attain it? One fucking comes before the other. Your thinking is fucking whacked. That’s right sir, BEFORE I decide whether or not I WANT the fucking car, I’m thinking about what I need to sacrifice(YOUR INCO-FUCKING-RRECT ARGUMENT)… Can you STILL not see that BEFORE YOU SACRIFICE, YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO SACRIFICE? I can see it now “man…I gotta give up 12 thousand dollars…” Voice of reason: Well what for? lmfao... Do you get it now? ONE comes before the other and this is a process where you CANNOT end up at step 2 before stepping onto step 1. You simplified it alright; so much so that it stopped fucking making sense and then I rejected it. Sure sacrifice is an IMPORTANT COST of DECIDING whether or not to change but some fucktard, beer drinking, idiot is IN HIS POSITION because he FIRST DECIDED TO STAY THAT WAY DUE TO PERSONAL VALUES. HE VALUES BEING A FUCKTARD BEER, DRINKING IDIOT MORE THAN NOT BEING ONE. IF HE WERE TO CHANGE, HE’D FIRST HAVE TO DECIDE TO CHANGE AND THEN THE COST OF THAT CHANGE WOULD BE SACRIFICING WHATEVER HE CALLED A LIFE FOR A BETTER ONE. HIS DECISION IS BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT IT IS MORE COSTLY TO HIM TO CHANGE THAN NOT DUE TO WHAT HE’D HAVE TO SACRIFICE. IN DUMMY WORDS, THE SACRIFICING COMES LATER! Think! No Phil, you aren’t supposed to get “there he goes again saying the same thing just in a different way.” I know this isn’t a class where the teacher can be sweet talked or impressed by good test scores but you can still do it I swear. If you were able to take the stick out of my ass, please remove the one that’s embedded in your skull.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

The one about me needing crack was also great, I loved it. Let me let you in on a little secret, I’m fucking competitive by nature because it exercises the only dependent variable for success that we have direct control over, fucking effort (something you are still learning, poor fellow). If my personal value for school isn’t shit then why the hell not look for somewhere else to spend my time? Do you really think Mercer’s environment on its own created me? Why the hell do I crack the fuck out and just do enough to get by in school? Well, I obviously value the game more than I do what Mercer offers for the most part. However, my values are strong enough to ensure I leave what I deem as sufficient time for school. So, I play every game like its going out of style and devastate all of you guy’s level wise/skill wise. If I don’t right off the bat (rare), I’ll continue to exert effort until it’s done. Ever asked yourself why? Of course not, you are too busying assuming and making an ass out of yourself. You asked me to do what you do well so I’m going to ask you to try and put yourself in some thinking shoes for a second. What did I gain from WoW? Nothing? That would be your typical answer, why am I surprised. Don’t I remember you saying I have no idea what a political arena looks like? Oh WoW is just a game? Lol, I started that game and people were “better than me and had said, done and achieved more than I did.” I still became one of the most powerful people in the WHOLE FUCKING GAME. That’s right; I was even DIRECTLY responsible for some of the changes to the Paladin class. I can hear it now “you took that seriously?” Yes, I took it seriously because those were guess what, people who don’t give a fuck about what I think or what I have to say and I CHANGED THEM. Do you realize that at SOME POINT, NOONE HAD a background in politics? They achieve it through practice, look up Clinton. Most people COULD NOT have done what I did, period. What? I could have spent my time better? According to who, you? No thanks. Oh dear God but wait, in Phil’s world, there was someone better, who had done it first and I had nothing to offer? How could this be? Umm, I’ll have “Phil’s a fucking idiot for $300” please Alex! EVERYTHING I’ve ever done was aimed at a specific goal Phil and it’s clearly aimed higher than your arrows even point. Oh, another secret, you weren’t ever expected to come back with the correct answers to any of my questions. I should add that you met and surpassed these expectations of mine with flying colors.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

MOST FUCKING importantly, where do I get off giving teachers a hard time? Well, I don’t give my definition of “teachers” a hard time; I give fucking idiots who claim to be teachers a hard time. I asked you about the impact a teacher who cared about their kids and their material could have versus that of the one’s your little brother had this semester. All I heard was fucking crickets. I should have known. Here, I’ll tell you. A teacher who cares would KNOW that their students are all capable of learning the material barring them having serious birth or untreated psychological disorders. All they have to do now is to figure out which ones can’t because of real life and personal choices. Here, I’ll attempt to “Phil proof” this argument. The harder ones to save are of course the ones directly affected by real life. The real life ones have 80hours a week work schedule with 3 kids and are probably single parents. The personal choice ones are exactly like your younger brother, FILLED with dormant potential but making poor personal choices. Luckily for me, I got to experience both kinds of these. The personal choice guy ended up with a B+ and the real life one ended up with a D. I spent over 50 hours a week with them OUTSIDE of class time this entire summer. I’d bet if your brother’s “teacher” gave a fucking rat’s ass about him they could have easily seen his grades slipping and helped. Why did he almost fail out? Yup, he made some poor personal choices but his environment must have been conducive to such choices in the first place. He obviously didn’t do poorly because of lack of ability so it must have been because he didn’t try hard enough. IS it that fucking hard to go the fuck back in and figure out why he’s not trying hard enough? The ONLY people who should fail a class are the ones who have CHOSEN to not apply themselves AFTER you’ve exhausted all of your options. THOSE are the people who education is NOT FOR and who I aim to remove from the system either directly or over time through environmental pressure. Should an elderly teacher lose some interest? If you love something do you ever lose interest? Hint: you lose ability but not any of that other word that’s spelled I-n-t-e-r-e-s-t. Watch, you’ll still get this one wrong. Young teachers who are victims of the system I can forgive but had they stood up for what they felt was right knowing that they could back it, believe me, anyone can make an impact. Their inaction is excused but still disgraceful.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

I know the life a teacher lives I’ve worked with Lynch on a personal level for almost a year and a half. What about you? Lynch is a great teacher. He cares and understands that his job is to teach not to just stand in front of a class and deliver material. He gets upset when students do poorly in his class and would go to the ends of the earth to ensure their success. Are you telling me that you are agreeing with a system where students who just needed a nudge or two should fail? Don’t worry; I’ll fix you too then. FUCK TEACHERS WHO’D RATHER PASS YOU OFF AS A FAILURE THAN TRY TO MOTIVATE YOU. FUCKING ASSHOLE DEANS/PRINCIPALS AND SCHOOL BOARDS CAN GO TO HELL IF THEY THINK ONLY 20/40 PEOPLE NEED TO PASS. They are failing students who ONLY needed a PUSH in the right direction! THESE ARE the people I wish to fix and they are NOT teachers even though they might be referred to as such. If you wish to defend these idiots, then by all means, step right up. I assure you, it will have no impact on what I intend to do. You are right, I will graduate from a mediocre business school but that was never going to have any impact on what I could or could not accomplish. I’m sticking it out because I want to, not because I need to. Your narrow-minded ass has fallen prey to someone else’s banter or your own terrible experiences with the world. Here, do some research while you are trying to understand what I’m saying and lookup the added value of a Harvard degree or some other comparative school. Oh that’s right… that’s not in Wikipedia…here, I’ll have to give it to you then. It adds about 57k more per year across individuals in specific high end fields. A Yale Lawyer gets on average about 57k more than a Mercer Lawyer per year. Now do some research about Harvard/Yale and other Ivy League schools and how they treat their students. Note that the mean GPA of graduating classes is rarely ever below 3.5 with a standard deviation of about .2 and that they graduate almost all of the class. Now look at Mercer or some other comparative school. Yay, Mercer has a mean GPA of about 2.8 with a standard deviation of .3. It graduates on average, 69% of its yearly classes. Why the fucking difference? Phil: lol durr ron its because the kids at those schools are smarter and more connected than us and know more and get better teaching… I’ll agree, those kids are probably more connected, and smarter, well educated and well taught than us but they ARE STILL FUCKING KIDS.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

Are you such a bumbling idiot to think that the same party scene doesn’t exist on these campuses? Perhaps you believe gaming to be non-existent on these campuses. Check, its actually far worse at these schools than for Mercer. Students who fail classes there fail after being counseled, lectured, and talked to during the course of the semester. In all cases, teachers spend more time with troubled students in order to guide them through the rough spots. Why the tremendous difference? Well, they certainly pay a higher price to attend these schools than Mercer. Check, you’d be surprised how much or should I say, how little more they pay than we do. Them having great teachers (fuckers who want to teach) is probably the number one reason why they win at life. There, the teachers stress that every single student accepted to the school was thoroughly investigated and known to have the ability, now all they must do is put forth the effort. Heard this one before right? Teachers there panic when 20 fuckers fail out of their class and aim for 100% success rates. They report to their Deans when their failure rate is too damn high, fancy that. This is the REAL reason behind why employers snag up students from these schools NOT because they are necessarily smarter or better in any way than others. Surely someone who got accepted into Harvard or Yale was at the top of their game but if I sat them and you in a room together, the only difference I’d see is knowledge base and probably a slight deficit in your ability versus theirs. So in essence, teachers at lesser schools have to work harder and in turn, so will their students if they ever want to be like the Ivy leaguers. I won’t even ask you what our current system favors. I’ll just tell you that if Mercer had more “teachers” we could better imitate the performances of schools like Yale/Harvard and rise from the trap of mediocrity. Too bad most of their self-serving natures are overly dominant or even worse, they think like you do.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

What would happen in my world? It’s pretty much a revamping of the entire system with emphasis placed on the learning process and teacher welfare. Well, first thing’s first, teachers, real honest to God teachers who LOVE their work would be in charge of every classroom. How do you create such people? Funneling tons of money into teaching makes it an attractive occupation to have because of incentives such as increased pay, benefits and an easier work environment. Hopefully you understand this much. All of their superiors would just be former teachers who have lived a fruitful life as a great and understanding teacher who has gained invaluable leadership qualities. Who better to tell a teacher how to teach than an older teacher? The goal of every fucking school will be to teach the willing. I will personally remove idiotic material (kids) from schools but eventually, systems will be put in place that removes them automatically and places them in other programs. If in time they change, the door is always open. If I’ve tried everything under the sun and you STILL don’t want to try? Fuck you, get out. Teachers will be noted for their work in the media as well as by the public. Parents will actually have to raise their children turning the nightmare that is teaching into a much more doable job. Teachers will finally begin to reap the benefits they deserve as they already do in so many other societies. Overtime, their pay will be increased and much of their benefits will increase. Their work environment will be as conducive as possible to learning and all they will have are the best human capital (willing children) to teach. Liability will shift over time to all parents for their children’s behavior and values. This will ensure that they either do their damn parts or quit bitching when their kid is learning how to paint pots. Trouble making kids will follow a different path, one that leads to some marketable skill or talent such as in trade schools. Everything will become far more detailed and yes, those lovely teachers who make 28k a year and yearn to be respected will finally get what they deserve. No more ignorant fuckers disturbing classes and making their days hell whether they are students or superiors. I fully believe that if someone invests enough time in someone else, they can mold them into whatever they want, I am living proof. The eventual spillovers of such policies would create an America where everyone who has learned has enjoyed the experience as much as humanly possible. An overly educated population leads to a much more productive and CIVILIZED society. Here, they will continue along the education process not only because it is generally required for success, but because they want to. We will stop creating fuckers like you who and I who hate the school system and create better, far superior citizens.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

In our situations, yes it’s better to be educated by the bad system than not. I don’t want kids to IDOLIZE ANYONE IDIOT; I want them to RESPECT HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS OF SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE! Why? If they idolize human characteristics, then they can aim to be LIKE said person by having SIMILAR HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS. I want them to respect their successful parents, actors, musicians, doctors, lawyers everyone ELSE in society that EARNS THEIR FUCKING KEEP. When you IDOLIZE you AIM TO BECOME but YOU CAN NEVER BE SOMEONE ELSE! Do you not understand this? When you RESPECT, you aim to ACHIEVE like-mind ness and actions. You can’t even come up with the reasoning required for this level of thought? You still have no fucking clue what I want to be even after I told you. I’d humor you and say nice guess but really, it was quite pathetic.
Even if someone knows that they want to be a poet, going to college and completing their education will be much less of a barrier because learning is as pleasant as it can ever be. Also, their parents will have made their value for it up there with shelter, food, water, clothing and oxygen. This is the never-ending cycle of learning I was talking about idiot. School isn’t going to teach you more, people will gradually want to learn more which leads to innovation. People will actual love the learning process enough to venture into more topics over time or teach themselves. They will raise better children because their values have all been impacted in a much better way. Did you think that I removed personal choice somehow? If you want to be an engineer, you’d still be a fucking engineer in my world, you’d just also know a SHIT ton more than say, you. Why? Because learning is no longer a problematic or stressful exercise due to duds in parenting, teaching, students or the system. How in GOD’S name did you MISS THIS WHOLE FUCKING POINT? Only you can tell me that Phil, seriously.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

Don’t worry though you will fulfill your role. Your role is to be like every other person who sits there with a thumb up his or her ass THINKING that their way is right until their environment smacks them in the face. What you aim to be is simply what I’d become if I failed in life. How do I know I’ll succeed? Well I plan to never give up giving whatever lucks modifier is a real run for its money in terms of my success. So, I took lessons from Hitler… Did you completely miss the part about using the power to change the world for GOOD? Knowing you, I wouldn’t put it past ya. Yes yes, I know “the road to hell is paved with good intentions,” you engineers all love this one. My solution? I plan to stop paving if shit starts getting hotter, rethink and then reapply my efforts. Tell me Phil, how can I change the world without the things I listed off? Don’t go dribbling on your shirt now damnit this is an easy one! You and your children will be a product of everything I have to say and your grandchildren as well. I’m full of myself? That is correct, I am arrogant. The difference between us is that my arrogance is deserved while yours is merely claimed. Yes I know I know nothing but that didn’t turn my brain into mush like it apparently did in your case. While you’ve been having an “unproductive” summer I’ve been getting my hands “wet” with what you aimed at being, academia. I write, I read, and I study the business world. I’ve interned twice now with the first being $28 bucks an hour running a service department and the second one? Well looky here…teaching college students. Don’t worry though Phil because I’ve never seen an engineer amount to much more than a lab rat even if it drives a jag.
Phew, thank God I don’t need your approval and that your words have little effect on me. I’d have been up shit’s creek without a paddle after you railed into me. I mean, people (unfit teachers) with Doctorates I brush off and here you are telling me a pile of shit that maybe you thought I’d accept? You who hasn’t the SLIGHEST fucking idea how the Business world works? Give me a fucking break. Sorry King Phil, your jurisdiction kind of ends right at the tip of my erected middle finger. Luckily for me, during my sophomore year I scored a 212 on the IQ test we take in MAPS and ever since then I’d been under close vigil by the business school. That’s another undisclosed fact. They too thought that because I had this amazing score I was worth a damn.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

So I took it over and over driving it as low as 40 just to make them understand. I know I know, you take everything with a grain of salt so here, I took the national one for you.

Congratulations, Ron! You are a Top Scorer!
Your IQ score is 127
This number is based on a scientific formula that compares how many questions you answered correctly on the Classic IQ Test relative to others.

Your Intellectual Type is Word Warrior. This means you have exceptional verbal skills. You can easily make sense of complex issues and take an unusually creative approach to solving problems. Your strengths also make you a visionary. Even without trying you're able to come up with lots of new and creative ideas. And that's just a small part of what we know about you from your test results. Read more...

Hah, 8 minutes later and I’m a “top scorer” who qualifies for other tests… Betcha wouldn’t know it just by looking at me huh? How many other people far smarter than me did this system destroy? I thought I had one pegged for sure but boy have you proved me wrong. However, like any good teacher, I'll go the extra mile until you no longer wish to learn.

Re: Nope I actually read it today

[anonymous]

Oh, and about your analysis of the situation. Everything YOU have said, someone has said, and they’ve said it fucking better. Everything YOU have done and WILL do (if you stick to your guns about being comfortable) someone has already done and BETTER. Everything you’ve ever thought of someone has already thought of and HAS exerted more effort in that than you ever have and ever will. YOU are the one with NOTHING to offer because you are in the middle of the bell curve. No one will care what YOU have to say because they have all said and done it before. Frankly, if I lived like that (and I have) I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass either. No? You’ve lived your life according to a mold that society has for you. Would you dare say that you are better than every other fucking person who has settled for society’s mold or mediocrity as I like to call it? I think not. Perhaps you’ll say that society is so powerful that no one in their damn minds can impact it. WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE!? Even though I doubt you will fail in your own life economically, every other person who has believes whole-heartedly, exactly what you do. If I really am “like a father before my time” then you would be the “ignorant son who has to learn with time that the father is right.” Perhaps in your own experiences, a backlash means its time to give up. Ben Fold’s and you think alike because you refuse to raise your head above the glass ceiling. No Phil, I’m not smarter than you I just tend to apparently use my brain and exercise my mind a tad bit (extreme understatement) more than you. I said on your wall that you are lazier than I in theory just not in execution for good reason. You can stop when you want to, this is what I do and besides, don’t kid yourself, you could never keep up. Are your eyes open yet?

P.S. Nobody has bigger guns than me, remember that.

It’s going to be pretty easy to drag a willing me to the Gym but I plan on being in there very early. I’ve decided to clean up my act. That’s right, I’m not 6 months from the real world, and I’m in the same program you are in. In January, I will STILL BE IN SCHOOL. When I’m done with my MBA, I plan to be working for Mr. Gates and Warren Buffet’s (the second richest man in the world whose own father told him a version of what you said to me) organization that’s all about changing you guessed it, Education and Parenting.