New Orleans in anarchy

Sep 01, 2005 23:18

America is going to hell in a hand basket.I wanna move out of this country, Its run bye compete idiots. Iv been watching the news all day and it brings me to tears to see the people of america to be treated like this ( Read more... )

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my_call_to_arms September 3 2005, 04:53:41 UTC
new orleans needs help because they have an idiot gov and mayor who don't know how to run the city of New Orleans and because they didn't start telling people to get out until the morning before. Thats there own damn fault and its their fault that they're flooded. Northern states gave them hundreds of thousands of dollars in the past few years to build the levy's stronger and did they use the money to do that?? NOPE. They had the money to protect themselves from this type of flooding and they chose not to use it. And this is what happens.

Please don't forget, new orleans wasn't the only one hit by a hurricane. Mississippi was the hardest hit, then Mobile, Alabama...you don't see as much footage of them as you do New Orleans because they're cities didn't flood the way new orleans did. And as far as rescue goes, you can only do so much for something a nation was so unprepared for. The Federal government has had to come to the rescue of not just new orleans BUT 3 states...while yes, they've reacted somewhat slow, they done their job and are continueing to do the best they can...you can't expect things to move as quickly as things did here in FLorida last year because #1 The new orleans gov. and mayor had no emergency plan and #2 there is more than one city/state in complete devistation.

And the gas prices really have nothing to do with bush..the gas has to do with the fact that a hurricane just wiped out one of the gulf coasts biggest asset to us-petrolium. SO until the hurricane situation gets under control and we aren't worrying about where we will get petrolium from, expect gas prices to keep going up...just like they did last year when florida got hit.

Don't get me wrong I feel sorry for the people of new orleans and even more sorry for what they've had to go through (and I mean this, my best friend lives and works there) but the way things have been handled reflects only on the city itself and the people running the city. Its a poor city run by incompetant people who would rather hide than come out and take charge of it. There was no emergency plan...nothing ...

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__causeiownyou September 3 2005, 20:58:29 UTC
yes, the more i read into it (cause the news really dosent tell you the whole story) the more agree with you

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my_call_to_arms September 4 2005, 15:59:34 UTC
=) And if you feel like helping out in anyway I can give you the address of where my friend from New Orleans is staying..shes in mississippi right now and lost everything. She could use help, a wal-mart gift card...a gift card for some clothes...a check..anything really. So if anyone wants to help let me know and I'll give an address to send something. Shes got nothing but a bag of clothes. She lost her car, her apartment, everything inside her apartment..

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DubyaTF illusionsburn September 4 2005, 17:21:00 UTC
I have no idea who you are, but your utter disregard for logic and actual facts is quite appalling. Don't call out anyone as idiotic before making a valid argument.

In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. However, the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war. This is due in large part to the sudden mutation of FEMA into a counter-terrorism organization by Bush. It is greatly unequipped to do what it needs to do, protect the safety of US citizens.

The funds that NO did receive are in fact a pittance when compared to what they actually required. Maybe if duct tape was an effective flood deterrent, they would be fine, but sadly that is not the case.

Also, what you said about the mayor warning the citizens of NO the morning before is utter bullshit.

http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf

This is a declaration of emergency asking for assistance from the federal government that was submitted four days before Katrina actually hit. They were warning individuals in advance, sadly they had no help. The abilities of the mayor and governor are vastly underdeveloped compared to those of the federal government.

Thank you.

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Re: DubyaTF my_call_to_arms September 5 2005, 04:56:20 UTC
Actually, I was giving no arguement. MY THOUGHTS...and my facts are valid and some of what I said was straight from a NO person's mouth "our mayor had to wait for the governor to okay the federal government to act"...thanks.

They were NOT warning for days. I have friends who live in New Orleans. Friends with NOTHING right now. THey did not warn them for days...thef federal gov't and the tv's did YES but as far as local and state government they did not warn them for the catastrophe that they new was lying before them.

I could go on but I won't. I have no blatent disregard...I have facts. Stop watching the damn news and get the facts. There was no real emergency plan. FEMA can't move in until the governor asks- they can't bring out of state NG or regular army forces ntil the governor asks them to come in. Also, POTUS declared on SAT. that new orleans should have a mandatory EVAC....than made a follow up call on Sunday to the gov which she FINALLY did make the evacuation mandatory on sunday (the day before the hurricane hit).
Basically all the mayor could really do at that point was tell people to leave and if you don't leave make sure you right your s.s.n. on your arm im permanant marker.

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Re: DubyaTF illusionsburn September 5 2005, 05:57:11 UTC
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf

Read again, please.
It is a declaration of emergency preparedness sent to the federal government by your so called inept state officials, which just so happened to be dated the 28th. They consistently warned individuals from that day on.

This is not news. This is straight facts. I'm not working off of word of mouth, it's an actual state issue release.

I'm sorry your friends lost everything, but don't lay blame where it shouldn't be laid. There is a much more responsible party that just so happened to be on vaction.

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Re: DubyaTF my_call_to_arms September 6 2005, 02:07:02 UTC
lol. alright. for the record...i don't care much for bush but if you get your facts straight he sent out the emergency warning WAY before anyone else in the state of LA did. TO be precise, He addressed it two days before disaster relief was requested by the state. Oh but wait, he can't be competant while not in the white house right? haha...Thats like saying a person can't be competant working from home instead of in their office.

I'm done too... I actually had no intention to respond back to you but I figured one more wouldn't hurt.
c-ya.

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Re: DubyaTF illusionsburn September 5 2005, 16:50:34 UTC
By the way, I'm done with this. I wouldn't want my inbox filled with pointless arguing, and I expect she doesn't want this either.

You can rationalize the federal government's ridiculously slow response any way you like. However, keep in mind that a state government that has been severely hamstrung by the aforementioned government will be hard-pressed to do everything themselves.

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