I think you both need a bit of a reality check - even for those who are well read the media is a long, long way from being a reliable or even relevant source of information.
Look at the Sydney Morning Herald website as of this moment. While it is far from "real journalism" it's what the people who realise the Telegraph is crap move up to. That column of utter rubbish down the right hand side, some guy being fined for biting off a mouse's tail, sport, Michael Jackson, more sport, fashion fit for a supermodel, even more sport (4 of the 5 most viewed articles).
Three people in the UK are missing in the UK after a flash flood - front page news. One person dies from starvation or disease every four seconds - nobody cares.
A crazy singer shows up for court again in the US - front page news. Thousands of people being killed in ethnic conflict in Sudan - nobody cares.
Some stockbroker has now been forgiven for his lies - front page news. Tens of thousands in Iraq are dead because our leaders lied - nobody cares.
I'm as guilty as the rest of us; I prefer to read humorous or esoteric crap and ignore the serious problems in the world. It's drilled into us from infancy; Play School, Sesame Street, the Power Rangers, Behind the News, the Curiosity Show. It sets up our minds, our life's expectations, and the media want to give people what we think we want to hear; they make more money that way. If I'd known at age five that the world was such a fucked up place I'd be a very different person now - the powers that be and the vested interests don't want that though.
As you've said Smokey, can't have those kids asking hard questions now can we?
The thing that utterly amazes me the most? Adult people won't call a spade a spade. The papers are still umming and ahhing and debating the ever-changing rationale for the Iraq war; first WMD, then stopping Saddam's torture, now spreading democracy to the Middle East. They should have stopped at the first one and said "They invaded for oil and strategic interests." which is the blindingly obvious truth. Why won't the mainstream press say it?
Because they prefer to continue the cycle and exploit human ignorance and greed.
I'm as guilty as anyone else - I spend a fortune on drugs and fine food and luxuries, yet I have absolutely no problem living with myself. I think I'm a nice guy. This is a problem. The small, rich proportion of the world's population needs to change but I don't think it's going to happen. I don't want to change for one.
So Pike, by all means get angry. But just be aware you're a willing part of the machine that makes it all happen. The big question is will your children be?
Three people in the UK are missing in the UK after a flash flood - front page news. One person dies from starvation or disease every four seconds - nobody cares.
We know this happens. It's not a new piece of information, and thus outside the lexical scope of The News.
Some stockbroker has now been forgiven for his lies - front page news. Tens of thousands in Iraq are dead because our leaders lied - nobody cares.
We know. Yesterday's news. the forgiveness just happened. News. The problem is, is that our memories are too short.
Why won't the mainstream press say it?
Because they prefer to continue the cycle and exploit human ignorance and greed.
no resale value. You won't sell tomorrows papaers if you cut straight to it. The rules of drama and storytelling forbid it as well, before we start getting all anti-corporation again.
Quote: >I'm as guilty as the rest of us; I prefer to read humorous or >esoteric crap and ignore the serious problems in the world. It's >drilled into us from infancy; Play School, Sesame Street, the Power >Rangers, Behind the News, the Curiosity Show. It sets up our minds, >our life's expectations ---------------- you might like www.angryflower.com ----------------------------------------
maybe we should replace those show's with new ones to teach the children how to detect lies, in (unfortunatly) theory if one were to have a method of a detecting such things, and can have it for-told in such ways of logic (childs play), hmm maybe by example of teaching this formula in kids show's is the way to go, trick is to makem aware of the procedures to lie/greed/cheet/steel/theif/genocide.etcetc. because than later on in life, when the kid/adult is confronted with these types of situations, hopefully more would be aware. or just not exsist in future life spans. and not just have "big bird" saying no kids its bad!.. possibly all this i say is impossible, but i like to think of it sometimes, if only. would be so worth it
as yeah.. the big question is, what will the future generations be? (worried look)
Hmmm what can one do? enjoy life i guess., and rant every now and than.. and just hope that this machine breaks/colapses/folds
I dunno - I do think kids should be made aware of the evils of the world; that way as you say they'll be better equipped to handle things when they grow up. But by the same token if it were my kids I'd certainly want to shelter them from the bad things and make sure their life was as happy as possible.
I think you both need a bit of a reality check - even for those who are well read the media is a long, long way from being a reliable or even relevant source of information.
Look at the Sydney Morning Herald website as of this moment. While it is far from "real journalism" it's what the people who realise the Telegraph is crap move up to. That column of utter rubbish down the right hand side, some guy being fined for biting off a mouse's tail, sport, Michael Jackson, more sport, fashion fit for a supermodel, even more sport (4 of the 5 most viewed articles).
Three people in the UK are missing in the UK after a flash flood - front page news. One person dies from starvation or disease every four seconds - nobody cares.
A crazy singer shows up for court again in the US - front page news. Thousands of people being killed in ethnic conflict in Sudan - nobody cares.
Some stockbroker has now been forgiven for his lies - front page news. Tens of thousands in Iraq are dead because our leaders lied - nobody cares.
I'm as guilty as the rest of us; I prefer to read humorous or esoteric crap and ignore the serious problems in the world. It's drilled into us from infancy; Play School, Sesame Street, the Power Rangers, Behind the News, the Curiosity Show. It sets up our minds, our life's expectations, and the media want to give people what we think we want to hear; they make more money that way. If I'd known at age five that the world was such a fucked up place I'd be a very different person now - the powers that be and the vested interests don't want that though.
As you've said Smokey, can't have those kids asking hard questions now can we?
The thing that utterly amazes me the most? Adult people won't call a spade a spade. The papers are still umming and ahhing and debating the ever-changing rationale for the Iraq war; first WMD, then stopping Saddam's torture, now spreading democracy to the Middle East. They should have stopped at the first one and said "They invaded for oil and strategic interests." which is the blindingly obvious truth. Why won't the mainstream press say it?
Because they prefer to continue the cycle and exploit human ignorance and greed.
I'm as guilty as anyone else - I spend a fortune on drugs and fine food and luxuries, yet I have absolutely no problem living with myself. I think I'm a nice guy. This is a problem. The small, rich proportion of the world's population needs to change but I don't think it's going to happen. I don't want to change for one.
So Pike, by all means get angry. But just be aware you're a willing part of the machine that makes it all happen. The big question is will your children be?
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We know this happens. It's not a new piece of information, and thus outside the lexical scope of The News.
Some stockbroker has now been forgiven for his lies - front page news. Tens of thousands in Iraq are dead because our leaders lied - nobody cares.
We know. Yesterday's news. the forgiveness just happened. News. The problem is, is that our memories are too short.
Why won't the mainstream press say it?
Because they prefer to continue the cycle and exploit human ignorance and greed.
no resale value. You won't sell tomorrows papaers if you cut straight to it. The rules of drama and storytelling forbid it as well, before we start getting all anti-corporation again.
and ouch.
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>I'm as guilty as the rest of us; I prefer to read humorous or >esoteric crap and ignore the serious problems in the world. It's >drilled into us from infancy; Play School, Sesame Street, the Power >Rangers, Behind the News, the Curiosity Show. It sets up our minds, >our life's expectations
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maybe we should replace those show's with new ones to teach the children how to detect lies, in (unfortunatly) theory if one were to have a method of a detecting such things, and can have it for-told in such ways of logic (childs play), hmm maybe by example of teaching this formula in kids show's is the way to go, trick is to makem aware of the procedures to lie/greed/cheet/steel/theif/genocide.etcetc. because than later on in life, when the kid/adult is confronted with these types of situations, hopefully more would be aware. or just not exsist in future life spans. and not just have "big bird" saying no kids its bad!.. possibly all this i say is impossible, but i like to think of it sometimes, if only. would be so worth it
as yeah.. the big question is, what will the future generations be? (worried look)
Hmmm what can one do? enjoy life i guess., and rant every now and than.. and just hope that this machine breaks/colapses/folds
Sigh.
oh yeah sorry to but in.
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It's a dilemna.
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It Sure is a delemna, i tend to agree with sheltering them from all bad things, at any coast.. no matter the price.
sigh.
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