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Zmirak: "All Your Church Are Belong to Us"

Feb 18, 2010 10:01

Go back to Hell. Our Church belongs to Christ.

Zmirak very nicely articulates why bare churches and felt banners and choose-your-own-adventure liturgy are not good enough.

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dustthouart February 18 2010, 18:43:19 UTC

Well, I prefer the NO, but I'm a convert, so I'm apparently to be viewed with pity and generous condescension. I couldn't possibly have any legitimate reasons for preferring the NO; according to a commenter (the blogger the Curt Jester), it's like preferring an ugly woman to a beautiful woman.

When I'm wearing my hat and kneeling to receive Communion on the tongue, I'll try to remember that I am an ignorant hostage to the 70s.

If only I could be merely orthodox. I would cry with joy if I could be so holy as to be merely orthodox.

kgbman February 18 2010, 20:46:20 UTC

I realize it's a deeply personal question but... why do you prefer the OF? I'm genuinely curious.

I readily confess my preference for the EF is partly due to a reaction against the bare churches, felt banners, liturgical dancers, modernist homilies ("The TRUE miracle of the loaves and fishes was Jesus inspired everyone to share,") and third rate Broadway showtunes generously labeled hymns one hears in the average suburban parish. I envy you if you've only ever had spiritually uplifting, solemn celebrations of the OF in your part of the country. I've attended such celebrations of the OF myself, but where I'm from they're more the exception than the rule, alas. I wish my faith were as strong as yours to ignore all of the abuses and silliness.

dustthouart February 18 2010, 22:39:30 UTC

The EF equivalent of bare churches, felt banners, modernist homilies and liturgical abuses, etc is ( ... )

3secondfish February 22 2010, 19:05:22 UTC

I still get the occasional dirty look, so don't worry.

I stopped going altogether for a couple of months, and currently affect black boots and jeans and motorcycle jacket at the EF.

A guy tried to lecture me at Christmas about uncovered hair, but I shut him down. There's still plenty of people who want to hang out with me for coffee.

expectare February 19 2010, 04:41:01 UTC

I dislike the OF a lot for aesthetics, but I have indeed had solemnly celebrated masses and orthodox Catholic homilies. Maybe the fault lies with your part of CA. *twitch*

kgbman February 19 2010, 14:10:19 UTC

My adviser was, as usual, holding me back from saying something I shouldn't have the other day. He said, "The 1970's are dead everywhere else in the American Church, but they're still in their death throes here."

expectare February 20 2010, 02:07:59 UTC

*shudders*

I've switched liturgical styles so frequently and have seen so many people tear up each other, parishes, and whole churches over the tiniest things that I always make it a point not to get caught up in the "x liturgy is 100% flawless and anyone who disagrees with me is an AGENT OF SATAN!" thing...That said, part of the reason I like the Terminator series so much is that LA always gets the crap nuked out of it. >:D

dustthouart February 19 2010, 03:23:51 UTC

3secondfish, I am making a longer post in my own journal, but I want to apologize. I was uncharitable and assumed bad motives from you that simply were not there because of my own emotional hurt. It was wrong of me and I hope you can forgive me.

3secondfish February 22 2010, 18:33:49 UTC

I seemed to have missed quite a party here. Dang. O.O ( ... )

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