The whole LJ thing...
I just spent about 3 hours researching and reading up on the whole LJ thing...and I'm pretty upset. Right, well, in case anyone is reading this, and you don't know what this is all about, others have said it better, so I won't explain...and since I don't know how to link,
Here is the comm dedicated to end fandom censorship:
(I specifically rec going to the liz marcs link on the profile page and clicking and reading all the links therein to familiarize yourself with the history of all this if you don't know already)
The last couple of entries in the comm outline the situation. Basically, two long-time HP artists, ponderosa121 and elaboration had their journals permanently deleted because of work they submitted that apparently depicted 'inappropriate' material. Both of these were of well-known artists, in that even I've heard of them or seen their work, and I haven't even been in the fandom that long.
Here, you'll find not only the links to the two letters sent by lj to both ponderosa and elaboration, but a bunch of links to others keeping track of this...
Sam, in particular, says it well:
Ponderosa's work, an NC-17 Snarry, to me did not look like Harry was underaged, nor that it was non-con. Looking at the actual emails sent by the LJ abuse team to the two, there isn't even a warning to remove the material, a chance for defence, or a clear violation, because, to the best of my knowledge, neither image was designated as under-age, and therefore could not be depicting a adult-child sexual relationship, or pedophilia. This is the issue "Warriors of Innocence", the outside group that has previously pressured LJ, is against. I don't know much about this group, except what I read on their last couple of posts on their website. Now, I myself have been a victim of pedophilia, and I fully support efforts to stop those who are pedophiles from targeting kids. But at the same time, there is a difference between actual pedophelia, and portraying possibly pedophilic situations. And that too with fictional characters. And even if this possibly pedophilic, fictional images may give pedophile ideas (as if they need any) or wank material, it seems like an extreme and unwarranted measure for LJ to permanently ban the artists without a warning or a chance to speak up. Also, this material was posted on pornish_pixies, which aside for being an over 18 website (which was amongst concerns), was also targeted by LJ before, resulting in the shutting down of the entire community for a while. Personally, seeing as this is the second time that something like this has happened on LJ (at least as far as I know), I'm supporting a move to another journal site. Or, better yet, I hope that a fan run journal site like the one being created by twocorpses takes off and we all move there.
I'm in solidarity with Pond and Elaboration.
By the way, this is awesome:
On a complete sidenote, and because I don't know how to link or make a memory, here is the masterlist of DH art as compiled by bibliophile20
Here is the comm dedicated to end fandom censorship:
(I specifically rec going to the liz marcs link on the profile page and clicking and reading all the links therein to familiarize yourself with the history of all this if you don't know already)
The last couple of entries in the comm outline the situation. Basically, two long-time HP artists, ponderosa121 and elaboration had their journals permanently deleted because of work they submitted that apparently depicted 'inappropriate' material. Both of these were of well-known artists, in that even I've heard of them or seen their work, and I haven't even been in the fandom that long.
Here, you'll find not only the links to the two letters sent by lj to both ponderosa and elaboration, but a bunch of links to others keeping track of this...
Sam, in particular, says it well:
Ponderosa's work, an NC-17 Snarry, to me did not look like Harry was underaged, nor that it was non-con. Looking at the actual emails sent by the LJ abuse team to the two, there isn't even a warning to remove the material, a chance for defence, or a clear violation, because, to the best of my knowledge, neither image was designated as under-age, and therefore could not be depicting a adult-child sexual relationship, or pedophilia. This is the issue "Warriors of Innocence", the outside group that has previously pressured LJ, is against. I don't know much about this group, except what I read on their last couple of posts on their website. Now, I myself have been a victim of pedophilia, and I fully support efforts to stop those who are pedophiles from targeting kids. But at the same time, there is a difference between actual pedophelia, and portraying possibly pedophilic situations. And that too with fictional characters. And even if this possibly pedophilic, fictional images may give pedophile ideas (as if they need any) or wank material, it seems like an extreme and unwarranted measure for LJ to permanently ban the artists without a warning or a chance to speak up. Also, this material was posted on pornish_pixies, which aside for being an over 18 website (which was amongst concerns), was also targeted by LJ before, resulting in the shutting down of the entire community for a while. Personally, seeing as this is the second time that something like this has happened on LJ (at least as far as I know), I'm supporting a move to another journal site. Or, better yet, I hope that a fan run journal site like the one being created by twocorpses takes off and we all move there.
I'm in solidarity with Pond and Elaboration.
By the way, this is awesome:
On a complete sidenote, and because I don't know how to link or make a memory, here is the masterlist of DH art as compiled by bibliophile20