Notes on Buffy 2.22: Becoming, Part II

Jan 24, 2011 00:27

Buffy 2.22  Becoming, Part II, In Which Buffy Drives a Stake Through Her Own Heart

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2maggie2 January 24 2011, 18:52:14 UTC
I never quite get Joyce's characterization. In the first few seasons she's a bit too hand's off (ignoring blood and so on), and is often presented as drinking a bit too much. Then sometimes she's insightful supportive Mom. I thinks he's a character who gets writter around to fit whatever the story needs at the moment.

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rebcake January 24 2011, 19:59:16 UTC
I love Joyce, but she's definitely an imbiber. She's toting around a glass of scotch through this whole exchange, Buffy even trying to blow her off with a sarcastic, "Have another drink, mom." She gets a snootful of schnapps 2 episodes later, which leads to still more bad parenting. Also, I might be the only one who loves this, but she's drinking Kahlua in Band Candy which is the perfect choice for a sophisticated 16-yr-old. (Like me, for instance. Heh.)

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pocochina January 25 2011, 00:48:46 UTC
I don't think Joyce ever drinks excessively, but we do see her with some hard liquor or other when things are messed up (here, DMP).

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red_satin_doll October 3 2012, 20:36:17 UTC
I never quite get Joyce's characterization. In the first few seasons she's a bit too hand's off (ignoring blood and so on), and is often presented as drinking a bit too much. Then sometimes she's insightful supportive Mom. I thinks he's a character who gets writter around to fit whatever the story needs at the moment.

That for me was one of the biggest failings of the early seasons - the failure to take the same care with Joyce as with the other major characters. (Sometimes she's warm and wise, sometimes she's the butt of the joke, etc.) I think making Motherhood the context of S5, then killing off Joyce and turning her into something of a saint in everyone's memory (after having ignored her altogether in S4), felt unsatisfying. I wanted more of Joyce when she was on the show. I know what it's like to be the daughter of a divorced/single mom, and there's so much they could have done with the Buffy/Joyce dynamic.

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