Essay: Comparing real history and APH canon of Rome, the Italys, Vatican City and Seborga
Okay, since I've heard the new header disappointed some because there's no Romano in it, implying again Rome favoured Veneziano, let's go check real world history and see how it would fit in Hetalia canon. Also, since we’re at it let’s see a bit of Rome’s history, if we can discover when the Italys had birth and which was their relation with Rome
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well, I'd add too:
218 bC after invading and conquering part of the Iberian peninsula, Romans created two more provinciae: Hispania Citerior and Hispania Ulterior
43 Emperor Claudius invaded Britannia.
212 Constitutio Antoniniana (or Edict of Caracalla). Emperor Caracalla gave full Roman cizitenship to all the free man who lived in the Empire.
Goodhearted? Actually, really smart.
Roman citizens had to pay taxes. A LOT of citizens meant, of course, a LOT of money.
dubbio:
per quanto riguarda le province romane, ti vuoi limitare solamente alle più importanti?
My guess is this means Rome moved in the East part of the empire.
I'm pretty much convinced the Eastern Empire (Byzantine Empire) is actually Mama Greece.wrote a fic about it lol
She was Grandpa's true love. In fact, Romans loved Greek cultures and language (well, there were also people like Cato the Censor, who was quite he xenophobic type), they tried to be like them, but sadly for them Greeks didn't reciprocate: too highty and mighty to do that no offence meant, Italiotes and Siceliotes were the same!
I think that when the Empire got too big and Jiji wasn't as young as before, he decided to entrust part of the lands to his spouse (I consider the other Moms: Gallia, Ancient Egypt, Hiberia... more like concubines), like a regent.
If I don't remember wrong, I've already told you about Magna Graecia being IMHO at the same time: Mama Greece's daughter, Greece's sister and the Ita Bros' mum. Well, after Grandpa Rome disappeared, Grandma Greece as the Byzantine Empire look after her grandsons for a while (Byzantine occupation of Italy). Then, like Rome, she started weakening (she was older than Rome, yet she lived more than him) and died when Turkey conquered Constantinople.
tbc
[sto guardando Il mio grosso grasso matrimonio greco....uguale alla mia famiglia, sarà merito del sangue greco X'D
Dici sempre cose interessanti, è un peccato perdersele...
grazie ;3;
ps se vuoi ti mando via pm il mio indirizzo msn, così viene meglio parlarci imho ma non se è un fastidio per te ;D]
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Well, originally it was done just to compare it with APH canon... but I'm having fun in expanding it... :P
Thanks for the suggestions about what to add!
per quanto riguarda le province romane, ti vuoi limitare solamente alle più importanti?
Honestly I hadn't thought at it... I tried to report the facts about the places mentioned in APH (Greece, Egypt, Carthage) completely forgetting Britannia and Hispania because Himaruya didn't mention them in Rome's history... but now I'm tempted to add more (like that part of Switzerland and Austria were included in Italia Annonaria... :P)
I'm pretty much convinced the Eastern Empire (Byzantine Empire) is actually Mama Greece.
It can be. I don't really remember if Himaruya said something about the Byzantine Empire... though it makes sense if it were Greece... Undoubtely Rome loved her much mroe than anyone else...
Well, I guess it's the standard reaction that people with greater culture have with the ones they judge barbarians (later Romans first and Italian later will do the same... and then it'll be the turn of Europeans with Africans and original Americans... who will invade their lands and discuss if they have or not a soul [oh well, they weren't even sure their own women had a soul so... -_-])
You might be up on something with your theory though... if only Himaruya were to dedicate more time to the ancients (BTW, did you ever get the chance to see the pictures of the ancients on Deviantart? And also this with HRE and Byzantine).
[sto guardando Il mio grosso grasso matrimonio greco....uguale alla mia famiglia, sarà merito del sangue greco X'D
LOL, il film l'ho visto! Era molto carino!
ps se vuoi ti mando via pm il mio indirizzo msn, così viene meglio parlarci imho ma non se è un fastidio per te ;D]
Non sarebbe un fastidio... il problema è che credo di essere l'unica persona in rete che non sa nemmeno come funziona msn... -_-;;;;
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yeah, me too, I can't remember if it's something Himaruya actually wrote (and then got deleted) or if it's just related to Japanese fandom! *__*
I LOVE to consider Jiji surrounded by his harem made of ancient mamas: Greece, Egypt, Hiberia, Gallia...
let's start with:
Roman History according to Giuliana >3>
Plot:
uhm, basically after having a fling with Sabina, the young and poor Roma married the wealthy and older Etruria, but at one point he fell in love with his wife's friend, mama Greece(Etrurians and Greeks shared economical connections). So Roma decided to conquer her: he tried to lure Greece's daughter onto his side, Magna Graecia. [come insegna il corvo Geremia da Brisby e il segreto del nihm: le ragazze vanno pazze per chi ci sa fare con i bambini X'D]
But the young Greek nation didn't appreciate Roma's effort
just longer and curlier hair and you'll have my Magna Graecia XD I think Romano looks like his mother ^3^
The young lady insulted, headbutted and tried to kick Roma off, just like how his son would act in the future XD
[pensandoci bene, questo mio OC somiglia molto alla cara Uzumaki Kushina ^^"]
So, not only Roma had to deal with that problematic kid [direbbe il caro Dino Cavallone], mama Greece didn't look impressed AT ALL, moreover Carthage tried to meddle into Jiji's affairs. The sly and lolicon? Punic tried to snatch both Magna Graecia AND Hiberia! How could Roma could bear this situation!? HE was supposed to be the one and only Mediterranean latin lover, not some crafty and stingy Phoenician (yes, Carthaginians were known for being stingy: war was very expensive, so they started wars only if they were absolutely sure they were going to win...)!!
Like Magna Graecia, the more mature and belligerant Hiberia didn't really like Roma: she hoped those two idiots would eliminate each other...
tbc
[gli sceneggiatori di Beautiful non sono niente a mio confronto!! X'DDD]
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Same here! I so wish we had more of ancient history time! Really just the talk between Rome and Germania was nowhere near enough.
uhm, basically after having a fling with Sabina, the young and poor Roma married the wealthy and older Etruria, but at one point he fell in love with his wife's friend, mama Greece(Etrurians and Greeks shared economical connections). So Roma decided to conquer her: he tried to lure Greece's daughter onto his side, Magna Graecia. [come insegna il corvo Geremia da Brisby e il segreto del nihm: le ragazze vanno pazze per chi ci sa fare con i bambini X'D]
LOL I like this plot! You tempt me to turn it in strips!
But the young Greek nation didn't appreciate Roma's effort.
just longer and curlier hair and you'll have my Magna Graecia XD I think Romano looks like his mother ^3^
The young lady insulted, headbutted and tried to kick Roma off, just like how his son would act in the future XD
[pensandoci bene, questo mio OC somiglia molto alla cara Uzumaki Kushina ^^"]
Well, I think Romano looks more like Rome than Veneziano but he could have taken his temper by his mama...
So, not only Roma had to deal with that problematic kid [direbbe il caro Dino Cavallone], mama Greece didn't look impressed AT ALL, moreover Carthage tried to meddle into Jiji's affairs. The sly and lolicon? Punic tried to snatch both Magna Graecia AND Hiberia! How could Roma could bear this situation!? HE was supposed to be the one and only Mediterranean latin lover, not some crafty and stingy Phoenician (yes, Carthaginians were known for being stingy: war was very expensive, so they started wars only if they were absolutely sure they were going to win...)!!
LOL! Though I thought Rome and Carthage were friends in the beginning... but I can see them very well arguing for womens... ah, boys never change...
Like Magna Graecia, the more mature and belligerant Hiberia didn't really like Roma: she hoped those two idiots would eliminate each other...
ROTFL Nobody likes Rome! Though I doubt he notices!
[gli sceneggiatori di Beautiful non sono niente a mio confronto!! X'DDD]
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