Good Old Jesse

Jul 10, 2008 15:29

In light of Jesse Jackson's recent comments about Barack Obama I was wondering how you all felt about holding religious leaders to a higher moral standard ( Read more... )

ethics, religious moral standard, politics, jesse jackson, immorality, religious leaders, religous ethics, morality, barack obama

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eggsnail July 10 2008, 21:12:11 UTC
I think far too many people expect their religious leaders to be perfect and lose faith or trust in them when they prove not to be. That just sets them up to fail and is just generally ridiculous.

There's a difference between expecting perfection and expecting morality. A priest who, say, lies and a priest who molests little boys are two completely different things. I don't expect religious leaders to be perfect. I don't expect that they not tell a lie every now and then, or perhaps feel lust or let a curse word slip. I do, however, expect that someone calling themselves a "man of God" should be held to a higher moral standard than molesting children.

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thinwhiteduke July 10 2008, 21:13:49 UTC
This.

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grappleyo July 10 2008, 21:36:25 UTC
Uh don't you think everyone should be held to a higher moral standard than molesting children? Damn.

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doctoreon July 10 2008, 21:53:44 UTC
Yes, but people who preach morality should be held to even higher standards.

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grappleyo July 10 2008, 22:05:39 UTC
Eh, almost everyone will preach some form of morality. Someone who is immoral and preaches morality might be a hypocrite, but should an ordained hypocrite be judged more harshly than a lay hypocrite? Hm.

Anyway, celticzen doesn't expect perfection and she thinks its acceptable that a priest will lie once in a while, but she expects "not molesting children", but how is that different than what she expects of laypeople, I wonder.

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doctoreon July 10 2008, 22:07:22 UTC
Someone who is immoral and preaches morality might be a hypocrite, but should an ordained hypocrite be judged more harshly than a lay hypocrite?

As I'm sure you could foresee, my answer to this question will be in the affirmative.

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grappleyo July 10 2008, 23:31:12 UTC
Nah, I couldn't forsee, since they both are preaching morality in contrast to their actions. So, why should your getting ordained make a difference?

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eggsnail July 10 2008, 23:58:10 UTC
Anyway, celticzen doesn't expect perfection and she thinks its acceptable that a priest will lie once in a while, but she expects "not molesting children", but how is that different than what she expects of laypeople, I wonder.

You're either too stupid to get my point or you're being purposefully obtuse. I'm going to assume it's the latter and not even bother typing out an explanation for this.

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grappleyo July 11 2008, 00:17:56 UTC
lmao. I got your point, it was just so special needs and obvious that I thought you must have mistyped. Guess not. No need to get defensive about it, you weirdo.

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eggsnail July 11 2008, 00:24:52 UTC
YOU'RE THE WEIRDO! I'M GOING TO DELETE MY JOURNAL! WANK WANK!

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eggsnail July 10 2008, 23:55:21 UTC
Uh don't you think everyone should be held to a higher moral standard than molesting children? Damn.

I'm not going to entertain your dumb assery today. So just STFU.

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grappleyo July 11 2008, 00:24:39 UTC
Beyond Babylon: You shouldn't expect religious leaders to be perfect.
Celticzen: I don't expect them to be perfect, but I think someone calling themselves a "man of God" should be held to a higher standard than molesting children.
Grappleyo: well no shit, wtf?
Celticzen: You clearly don't get my deep and interesting POINT. God forbid my point was just retarded rawr rawr rawr.

LMAO, you entertain me just fine.

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eggsnail July 11 2008, 00:26:06 UTC
I'm going to punchisize your face.

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chaeri July 11 2008, 00:27:20 UTC
i will help you.

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grappleyo July 11 2008, 01:02:12 UTC
Sorry I don't get your stupid farva reference so I am just going to assume from the context that "punchisize your face" means "make a stupid livejournal comment". Mission accomplished, I guess. Congrats?

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